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[ninjalooter1701]

Originally Posted by Antiphon

I'd suggest you're the whinger. So you got picked up for misusing your vocabulary....big f'in deal. Build a bridge!

Balkanization is just as Zan described it.

It's not a "slur" of any sort.

[Zan de Man]

What would you know? You're only a professor of linguistics. Have you consulted a licensed Islamic scholar?

[Yorkist]

[Underhill]

The success of our forum is dependent upon the intelligence of our posters.

I believe I heard that somewhere...?

[Yorkist]

Originally Posted by Underhill

The success of our forum is dependent upon the intelligence of our posters.

I believe I heard that somewhere...?

We're in trouble!

[Antiphon]

Originally Posted by ninjalooter1701

Balkanization is just as Zan described it.

It's not a "slur" of any sort.

I didn't claim it was. I claimed it was hostile, which is part and parcel of the definition of the word.

[Zan de Man]

Strike two.

[ninjalooter1701]

Aside from your perception that it is hostile, what evidence do you have that the word contains hostility?

[Antiphon]

Originally Posted by ninjalooter1701

Aside from your perception that it is hostile, what evidence do you have that the word contains hostility?

It's called a dictionary, however, for the record:

Balkanization or balkanisation is a geopolitical term originally used to describe the process of fragmentation or division of a region or state into smaller regions or states that are often hostile or non-cooperative with each other

To divide (a region or territory) into small, often hostile units.

• to divide (a country, territory, etc.) into small, quarrelsome, ineffectual states.
• (often lowercase) to divide (groups, areas, etc.) into contending and usually ineffectual factions

The word itself infers hostility, however I dare say the protagonists will disagree vehemently.

[Antiphon]

Originally Posted by Zan de Man

What would you know? You're only a professor of linguistics. Have you consulted a licensed Islamic scholar?

[ninjalooter1701]

Originally Posted by Antiphon

It's called a dictionary, however, for the record:


The word itself infers hostility, however I dare say the protagonists will disagree vehemently.

Ah, ok, I bow to your lexical talents.

[Yorkist]

Originally Posted by ninjalooter1701

Ah, ok, I bow to your lexical talents.

Indeed. How could you question someone who doesn't even know the difference between an inference and an implication?

[Antiphon]

Originally Posted by Yorkist

Indeed. How could you question someone who doesn't even know the difference between an inference and an implication?

Infer has been used to mean “to hint or suggest” since the 16th century by speakers and writers of unquestioned ability and eminence: The next speaker criticized the proposal, inferring that it was made solely to embarrass the government. Despite its long history, many 20th-century usage guides condemn the use, maintaining that the proper word for the intended sense is imply and that to use infer is to lose a valuable distinction between the two words.
Although the claimed distinction has probably existed chiefly in the pronouncements of usage guides, and although the use of infer to mean “to suggest” usually produces no ambiguity, the distinction too has a long history and is widely observed by many speakers and writers. source

So much fun, at another's expense.

[Yorkist]

Originally Posted by Antiphon

So much fun, at another's expense.

Indeed.

A speaker implies ("suggests") something; a listener infers (or "deduces").

Examples:
The manager implied that I was a bad risk. I inferred from her remarks that she thought I was lazy.

Imply and Infer - Glossary of Usage - Commonly Confused Words - Imply versus Infer

Learn The Difference Between "Imply" and "Infer"

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[Antiphon]

Originally Posted by Yorkist

Indeed.

A speaker implies ("suggests") something; a listener infers (or "deduces").

Examples:
The manager implied that I was a bad risk. I inferred from her remarks that she thought I was lazy.

Imply and Infer - Glossary of Usage - Commonly Confused Words - Imply versus Infer

Learn The Difference Between "Imply" and "Infer"

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We speak it differently down here.....thanks, but.......y'know.

[ninjalooter1701]

Originally Posted by Antiphon

We speak it differently down here.....thanks, but.......y'know.

I checked a few of my sources, and none of them hinted that Australian English used these verbs in any manner different from the other dialects of English...Just where is, "Here?" You mean, in Antiphonland?

[Antiphon]

Originally Posted by ninjalooter1701

I checked a few of my sources, and none of them hinted that Australian English used these verbs in any manner different from the other dialects of English...Just where is, "Here?" You mean, in Antiphonland?

Prove it. You want to get into semantics? I'm pretty good at that game as well. Re-read what I posted from an authoritative source. The terminologies are interchangeable and have been for centuries. Like I say, you want to get into semantics, then that's fine by me.

[Yorkist]

Originally Posted by Antiphon

Prove it. You want to get into semantics? I'm pretty good at that game as well. Re-read what I posted from an authoritative source. The terminologies are interchangeable and have been for centuries. Like I say, you want to get into semantics, then that's fine by me.

This should be amusing.

[Antiphon]

Originally Posted by Yorkist

This should be amusing.

well, come on, smartarse. Or are you content to concede that I'm right?

[Yorkist]

Originally Posted by Antiphon

well, come on, smartarse. Or are you content to concede that I'm right?

Oh no. I'm content to leave the slicing and dicing to Ninja.