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Old 15th September 2006, 01:40 AM
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Is there a bigger coward in Washington than Dick Cheney? I can't think of anyone quite so spineless. In fact Dick Cheney could well be the biggest coward on the planet at the present time.

Let's look at some of the characteristics of cowardice:

They tend to be bullies. Bullies are usually cowards though not all cowards are bullies.

War hawk, military Industrialist vampire, and former gung ho Vietnam war supporter Dick Cheney himself had five college draft deferments in order to avoid putting his ass in Southeast Asia.

You see nothing makes a bully/coward happier than to see other people fight their own battles for them. Just so long as he (the bully/coward) can avoid all combat dangers himself.

Now while these traits fit the whole Neanderthal selection of Bush Neo-Con Iraq war architects like Rove, Bush, Wolfowitz, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Delay, Frist, Lott, Armey, Boehner, Gingrich, And many many more who support war but avoided the Vietnam war draft. (The whole "Who's Who" of war supporters completely unwilling to put their ass on the line but happier than hell to see YOU or YOUR KID take a bullet for Halliburton).

Still no one quite fits the bill of Chickenhearted COWARD (with a capital "C") than Dick Cheney.

Most recently Dick Cheney accused opponents of his elective war (based upon LIES) in Iraq of "Not having the stomach to take the fight to the terrorists".

Now only an idiot or really brainwashed person would buy into that crap. It is people like Dick Cheney, whose fiasco, failed occupation of Iraq that has turned that country into a terrorist training ground, allied it with ANOTHER terrorist State (Iran) and diverted U.S. military personel AWAY from countries that REALLY do have terrorists responsible for 9/11!!! States like Afganistan where the Taliban is regaining control and the opium crop has never been better.

A bumper crop this year really.

All from the Cheney coward who wouldn't step up to the plate and fight the war he believed in (Vietnam) when it was his chance to serve.

So is he a punk coward bully or what? In fact most of contemporary GOP leaders fall into that category: Will let you or your kid die for their benefit.

Let's not confuse war opponents who decided not to serve in Vietnam in the same category of yellow tailed perverts like Vice President Cheney. A lot of people were opposed to the tragedy of Vietnam and yet chose not to enlist or sought draft deferments. All fine and dandy as these people didn't want anyone ESLE to serve there and be put at risk of injury or death.

Not so with the Neo-Cons and most specifically Dick Cheney. Again, nothing makes a coward happier than to see other people hurt themselves for the coward's benefit..

So now let's take a coward like Dick Cheney for instance: He's happy most of the time. And what is one of the things that keeps Dick Cheney so happy?

He likes to shoot TAME DOVES...

Now let me make this clear, I'm not opposed to hunting. Shoot a deer if you want, or any other critter that is legal and in the proper season with tags and permit. I don't care. Now don't shoot a Buffalo, Rhino, Golden Eagle or something on the Threatened or Endangered Species act. That's just wrong.

However if you are responsible and not a "Slob Hunter" variety i see nothing wrong with most legal forms of hunting. I'd join you at hunting too except that i quit shooting animals back when the hunters started to outnumber the deer.

But please don't shoot tame doves. That's the sort of thing only a @#%$ (substitute an alternative word for cat here) does. Those poor domesticated fowl spent their whole lives in either a poultry coop or an aviary. Fearful, harmless and totally defenseless it appears to me that only a coward and a bully would enjoy the act of killing tame birds. I put it in the same category of shooting kittens. Ot shooting a songbird. It's not only cowardly but bad public relations.

Imagine how this would sound at a cocktail party:

"What do you do like to do for fun Dick"?

"Oh I love the feeling of potting a tame dove right in the face with birdshot. Makes me feel all manly inside to watch it fall out of the sky dead on the ground".

"Oh really? Say that's neat. I kinda always wanted to shoot kittens myself".

"Cool"...


Now after Cheney shot the Lawyer you'd think maybe his machismo could have gained a little, but remember that was an only accident caused by shooting a firearm while drunk. Sorry Dick, you'll have to do better next time.

His friend the attorney who got shot while facing Cheney trusted him not to shoot. That's because he figured a Republican politician will always shoot you in the back...


In recent years the GOP led war machine has sought to frame war opponents as "Angry people". And this sells because cowards like Cheney are often smiling happy chickens themselves.

You'll find that a lot of sadists are happy people. They enjoy the act of not only exploiting people but also seeing them get hurt and cry in pain.

Take serial killer Ted Bundy. In every old video or picture of that bastard Ted I always remember him showing a lot of teeth in his happy stinking grin. In fact his features resemble some other significant GOP leaders. The first two that come to mind are Bush himself and the Late Lee Atwater, dirty trickster for the GOP. Atwater was almost a perfect ringer for Bundy and had the same 5hit eating grin most of the time. At least before he sickened with brain cancer and tried feebly to repent for the evils of his lifetime assassinating the character of political opponents.

Ted Bundy was, among other things, a campaign activist for the GOP too. Kinda fits don't ya think? All Happy happy people!!!



Sometimes we NEED people to be ANGRY. Any Allied soldier in WWII Battle of the Bulge or other wartime situations needed to be angry and hateful. Our troops HATED the Nazis and the Imperial Army of the Japanese. In fact the whole free world depended upon our men HATING their enemy. This is the way they overcame their fears and killed the sons of bitches.

So anger, unleashed in proper ways is a very positive thing. Think Rosa Parks was happy being arrested for not taking the "proper" seat?

So I've talked about cowards and cowardice related to Chickenhawk Cheney and even compared him to serial killer Ted Bundy. However there is one important distinction of personality that separates these two monsters.

Yes there is a BIG difference between the personalities of Happy Guys like Ted Bundy and Dick Cheney. What is it?

Evil and heinous as he was (and rotting in Hell for sure) Ted Bundy did his dirty, nasty work himself. That actually takes some real nerve.

And there you see is the difference. Spineless jerk that he is Dick Cheney always needs someone else to do his killing for him.

Therefor on the scale of lowest of the lows I regretfully have to put old Ted at least one notch higher up than Dick.
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Don't take this as an endorsment of the guy but...

I was sick and tired of all the draft doding finger pointing a long time ago.

Is it relivent? In a way yes.

However I wonder how many of the people who like to flaunt this, if they had been males of draftable age back then, if they wouldn't have tried getting out of that death sentence too?
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and diverted U.S. military personel AWAY from countries that REALLY do have terrorists responsible for 9/11!!!
He is obviously doing a good job as nearly all of the 9/11 terrorists came from Saudi Arabia.

In fact he is so successful that the aforesaid country is America's prime middle eastern ally in the war against the perpetrators of 9/11.

And who said that Cheney was dumb?
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Don't take this as an endorsment of the guy but...

I was sick and tired of all the draft doding finger pointing a long time ago.

Is it relivent? In a way yes.

However I wonder how many of the people who like to flaunt this, if they had been males of draftable age back then, if they wouldn't have tried getting out of that death sentence too?
In way your point isn't related to the thread. I never put down draft dodgers per se. Only those who are all gung ho about others going off to get shot at and bombed while they themselves stay out of the line of fire.

Cheney, Limbaugh and many many more fit THAT category. They LOVED the Vietnam War but were too scared to stick up for their ideals. So they let other poorer kids get killed in their place. They're still doing this today.

Those that avoided the draft but DID NOT SUPPORT the Vietnam War don't count.

Only the chickenhawks.

And those that shoot defenseless, tame doves...
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And those that shoot defenseless, tame doves...
As opposed to wild birds which learn kung fu in the wild?

What animal isn't defenseless when compared to the hunter? Maybe a bear or a lion if it gets the drop on the hunter, but otherwise they are all pretty fucked.
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Don't take this as an endorsment of the guy but...

I was sick and tired of all the draft doding finger pointing a long time ago.

Is it relivent? In a way yes.

However I wonder how many of the people who like to flaunt this, if they had been males of draftable age back then, if they wouldn't have tried getting out of that death sentence too?
Not a problem with me...unless they then move on to create wars and force other people to fight them. Wars in which they themselves are too cowardly to fight.
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And those that shoot defenseless, tame doves...
I hear he shot something like 250 of the little buggers too...and just left them to rot on the shore.
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Old 16th September 2006, 01:49 AM
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Think about it: Those who would enjoy shooting tame doves are some of the weakest, sickest people around.
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Think about it: Those who would enjoy shooting tame doves are some of the weakest, sickest people around.
As opposed to those people who kill babies before they are born.

They're real brave, right?
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Is there a bigger coward in Washington than Dick Cheney?
Sure. There are loads of cowards in Washington. Most are called Democrats.

The last guy to sit in the White House was a coward, and he was a Democrat.

I think in the future you really should give credit to whomever you cut and pasted for your rant. A link would suffice.
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You see, that's where you have it wrong. Bubba wasn't a coward. He just didn't believe in fighting in a war that was illegal and immoral. Conversely, while he was president, he didn't start a war and send our troops overseas to die for a questionable cause. That makes him true to his principles and not a coward. The current neo-con bunch are nothing but cowards because they didn't go and fight in Nam but are now more than willing to send your children off to fight. That makes one a coward. Dick Cheney qualifies as do numerous others. Bubba does not. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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I think in the future you really should give credit to whomever you cut and pasted for your rant. A link would suffice.
I Googled most of the stuff in this piece and couldn't come up with a link. But then I thought he wrote it himself to begin with. I think you may be jealous because it hits the Chickenhawk CHeney right in the gonads, something you weren't able to do with Bubba.
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You see, that's where you have it wrong. Bubba wasn't a coward. He just didn't believe in fighting in a war that was illegal and immoral.
Why is every war with you people on the left an illegal war? There was nothing illegal about Vietnam regardless of whether you think it was right or wrong.

It was also a war started by Democrats. Another inconvenient fact.

It doesn't matter what Clinton thought about the war. He dodged the draft. He snaked his way around it in every possible way. It was his duty to go when called and it was the law. The only thing illegal was Clinton's evasion of serving when he supposed to.
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I would agree there are a few cowards in the democratic party. The last few years has proven that out. However Clinton stands head and shoulders above the nasty cowardly prick now occupying the white house any day...and that goes for that nasty prick's even nastier little coward pussy minions as well.
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It doesn't matter what Clinton thought about the war. He dodged the draft. He snaked his way around it in every possible way. It was his duty to go when called and it was the law. The only thing illegal was Clinton's evasion of serving when he supposed to.
He says as he ignores Bush's own "paid for" exemption from service and Cheneys' five deferments....

Quick!!! Look over there!!!!!
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I Googled most of the stuff in this piece and couldn't come up with a link. But then I thought he wrote it himself to begin with. I think you may be jealous because it hits the Chickenhawk CHeney right in the gonads, something you weren't able to do with Bubba.
Yep, you got it. Dawildman ALWAYS writes his own rants.

Don Barzini you flatter me. Really appreciate your libel. You couldn't have complemented me more in your reply except perhaps if you had reported me as a subversive to the NSA or whatever internal security agency you want to see destroy what civil liberties we have left.

But then again you may have done that too!

To understand Diehard Republicanism is to realize that it is a form of Mental Illness with specific symptons resembling Mental Retardation.

The key word here is specifc (symptoms). A diehard Bushie may be a fine employee, family member etc. and can even run his business or home well. However when it comes to matters of politics he behaves as a tirading retarded person.

Like an autistic child constantly raving words like "Clinton did it" "Clinton did it" "Clinton did it" etc. and ad nauseum in movement and rythym. A repetitive motion sickness.

We're talking about a symptomatic idiot who would devote all his waking hours hoping something bad would happen to Bill Clinton ten years after he was out of office...

And there generally is no cure. It is my opinion (and probably true) that these political nutcases came from at least one very abusive parent. When grown they can not or will not live comfortably without a a tyranical figure who takes control over a major role in their lives. Enter autocratic A-Holes like Cheney, Rove, Bush etc.

So for you or me who like FREEDOM, DEMOCRACY, CIVIL LIBERTIES etc???

Well we are the sworn enemy of these mentally challenged people and scare them half to death. They fear you and me more than any real enemy or problem we have.

I know it doesn't make sense but that is how they view things. I've seen these characteristics in children who were severely abused. One girl i once knew was a fine teen ager most of the time. However due to some kind of severe abuse early in life she developed a defensive mechanism that would shut off her ability to follow a discussion right in the middle of a sentence.

In other words she lived in a different world than the rest of us. In order to survive the horrendous abuse she'd suffered earlier in life she had to be able to shut off reality at will until it became a habit. Then she altogether lost the ability to differentiate between an abusive relationship and a regular one. So by habit she'd unconsciously drift in and out of these trance like states at a moments notice.

At first the casual observer wouldn't see that the kid was a thousand light years removed from the conversation, but upon careful watch it was very apparent. And when she matured a few years later she always sought out the most ruthless type persons she could find to control her whole life.

So when i see these poor GOP diehard morons I think of that poor kid.

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Yep, you got it. Dawildman ALWAYS writes his own rants.

Don Barzini you flatter me. Really appreciate your libel. You couldn't have complemented me more in your reply except perhaps if you had reported me as a subversive to the NSA or whatever internal security agency you want to see destroy what civil liberties we have left.

But then again you may have done that too!

To understand Diehard Republicanism is to realize that it is a form of Mental Illness with specific symptons resembling Mental Retardation.

The key word here is specifc (symptoms). A diehard Bushie may be a fine employee, family member etc. and can even run his business or home well. However when it comes to matters of politics he behaves as a tirading retarded person.

Like an autistic child constantly raving words like "Clinton did it" "Clinton did it" "Clinton did it" etc. and ad nauseum in movement and rythym. A repetitive motion sickness.

We're talking about a symptomatic idiot who would devote all his waking hours hoping something bad would happen to Bill Clinton ten years after he was out of office...

And there generally is no cure. It is my opinion (and probably true) that these political nutcases came from at least one very abusive parent. When grown they can not or will not live comfortably without a a tyranical figure who takes control over a major role in their lives. Enter autocratic A-Holes like Cheney, Rove, Bush etc.

So for you or me who like FREEDOM, DEMOCRACY, CIVIL LIBERTIES etc???

Well we are the sworn enemy of these mentally challenged people and scare them half to death. They fear you and me more than any real enemy or problem we have.

I know it doesn't make sense but that is how they view things. I've seen these characteristics in children who were severely abused. One girl i once knew was a fine teen ager most of the time. However due to some kind of severe abuse early in life she developed a defensive mechanism that would shut off her ability to follow a discussion right in the middle of a sentence.

In other words she lived in a different world than the rest of us. In order to survive the horrendous abuse she'd suffered earlier in life she had to be able to shut off reality at will until it became a habit. Then she altogether lost the ability to differentiate between an abusive relationship and a regular one. So by habit she'd unconsciously drift in and out of these trance like states at a moments notice.

At first the casual observer wouldn't see that the kid was a thousand light years removed from the conversation, but upon careful watch it was very apparent. And when she matured a few years later she always sought out the most ruthless type persons she could find to control her whole life.

So when i see these poor GOP diehard morons I think of that poor kid.

Interesting rant. Bizarre, but interesting. It doesn't say much other than you hate Republicans and think they are retarded.

That seems to be the left's standard foundation for what they call constructive debate.

So, Am I correct to believe that in your world you think people on the left are righteous, intelligent and noble people who are not products of abuse?

I'm going to have to remember that you think Republicans have mental illness while I sift through whatever illness you are obviously suffering from.
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As opposed to wild birds which learn kung fu in the wild?

What animal isn't defenseless when compared to the hunter? Maybe a bear or a lion if it gets the drop on the hunter, but otherwise they are all pretty fucked.
Good point. Personally, i think all hunters are either a bit sick or looking to reach to some primitive emotions (like the pleasure to kill).

If hunting was a sport, I'd give the hunter a knive, a sagai, a small wooden shield and they can go hunt lions. They win, great. They lose? So be it, it'd be a blast on real-tv.
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You see, that's where you have it wrong. Bubba wasn't a coward. He just didn't believe in fighting in a war that was illegal and immoral.
See others' reply. Clinton most likely wasn't too keen on going get shot at, no matter his pov on the war. Fair enough, i'd do the same.

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You're joking, right? Ever heard of Kosovo?

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That makes him true to his principles and not a coward.
Mmm. Would he fight in a war he approved of? I suspect any war he'd likely be part of would see him disapproving of it. But then, so would I.
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