DRAFT? Universal National Service Act of 2007 (Introduced in House)

[Justin]

Originally Posted by potter

I agree, our nation is great, the leaders of our government are indeed evil however, and our government needs a complete makeover.

As far as your first comment, think again.....

My favorite is:



whoever photoshop-ed that is amazing.

[potter]

Originally Posted by clownboy

After reading your take on this, I'm wondering if you took the time to look at who is introducing the bill before you went all Bush-mad.


It was the Dem new Chair of the Ways and Means.

I didnt say Bush initiated the bill, I just said he would certainly take advantage of it.

[Sir Digalot]

the dems wanted the draft before the war to prove a point to the stupid american public to take note of the seriousness of the situation... they also knew that it did not stand a chickens chance in a KFC of getting through.

there is no need for the draft, since we are not in an official declaration of war.. we declared victory, or am i mistaken about the mission accomplished thing?

i agree that those with offspring from privilaged backgrounds will have more chance of getting off then those of us who are not of such a nature..

another thing liberal nation does not care because she is not old enough to be drafted, and shows her concern for other people by saying hey, this is a good idea because it does not include me! which is a very selfish arrogant way of looking at the world, but this does not suprise me in the least.


personally i am not looking forward to and form of national service, i have a big issue with being commanded to do anything against my will, so would suck in the military, luckily i may well be able to get civilian service as something,

this is the funny thing, it says EVERYONE who resides in the USA, this includes illegal immigrants, we came up against this when i was applying for my adjustment to LEGAL, since i was over the age of 26 when we applied i was not subject to the requirement for the national service register, but, they told me that i had to fill it out when i was living here even illegally, on the form, it asks for the social security number (how do you think they perform the "lottery" for draftees) so they expect you to sign up for national service, even though you cannot meet the basic requirements to do it. typical government logic

[Fredfredson]

It also applies to the children of foreign nationals residing in the US.

There are several Canadian families I know who are hustling their wives and kids back across the line just in case.

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[LiberalNation]

another thing liberal nation does not care because she is not old enough to be drafted, and shows her concern for other people by saying hey, this is a good idea because it does not include me! which is a very selfish arrogant way of looking at the world, but this does not suprise me in the least.

LN isn't worried because she is female. I may not be 18 yet but I will be soon.

[Sir Digalot]

this also applies to female now

SEC. 111. REGISTRATION OF FEMALES UNDER THE MILITARY SELECTIVE SERVICE ACT.

(a) Registration Required- Section 3(a) of the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. 453(a)) is amended--

(1) by striking `male' both places it appears;

(2) by inserting `or herself' after `himself'; and

(3) by striking `he' and inserting `the person'.

(b) Conforming Amendment- Section 16(a) of the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 466(a)) is amended by striking `men' and inserting `persons'.

[Sir Digalot]

you wanted equality... you got it now

[keyplayer]

Well hopefully all you suckers who beleive that George Bush and the US government are doing the right thing will get sent to Iraq.

[Six-String Ronin]

Somebody has tried to do this at least once a year, every year, for the last several years. I don't see much of a reason for this one to turn out any different than the others.

[thaanatos]

Somebody has tried to do this at least once a year, every year, for the last several years.

actually, it's been Rangel each time.....

[LiberalNation]

Originally Posted by Sir Digalot

this also applies to female now

One reason it wont pass. If this was serious and they were really gona draft people they wouldn't include females I'm betting. Society hasn't gotten to that point yet.

[potter]

Originally Posted by LiberalNation

One reason it wont pass. If this was serious and they were really gona draft people they wouldn't include females I'm betting. Society hasn't gotten to that point yet.

I'll take you up on that bet. 30 years ago you may have been right, today, no.

[LiberalNation]

Don't be so sure potter. The US would not send its daughter off to war, not yet. They still have laws about no woman in combat for our all volunteer military. Even if woman were drafted it would be to posts here in the US.

[potter]

Originally Posted by LiberalNation

Don't be so sure potter. The US would not send its daughter off to war, not yet. They still have laws about no woman in combat for our all volunteer military. Even if woman were drafted it would be to posts here in the US.

I know women who have served in a combat roll in the military quite well.

My daughter is a security guard. I wouldn't cross her if I were you....


You wanna stay home and bake bread?

[Tom Joad]

I hope it does pass. It will be fun to see the reaction of some of our young "conservatives."

[LiberalNation]

Originally Posted by potter

I know women who have served in a combat roll in the military quite well.

True enough and congress raised a stink about it a few years ago because of all the female deaths in combat. Said the military was ignoring their rules which is prolly true. They only have a limited number of soldier. I can't imagine them not using half of them because they're female.

You wanna stay home and bake bread?

Nope, I don't wana be forced to serve in the military either and if being female is an excuse I could use to get out of it you can bet your ass I would use it. Principles can only go so far, sometimes they have to be set aside.

[clownboy]

I'm with you on this one potter. Though I don't believe there should be a general draft, I believe if there is one, it should include both sexes. I've also seen women serve honorably and with fierce strength.

[Six-String Ronin]

Originally Posted by thaanatos

actually, it's been Rangel each time.....

No, it hasn't, we went over this the last time a thread like this came up. I guess you forgot.

[thaanatos]

No, it hasn't, we went over this the last time a thread like this came up. I guess you forgot.

obviously I have....are you saying Rangel wasn't involved the other times this came up? I specifically recall at least two times he was, were there others?

[sarmajor]

Principles can only go so far, sometimes they have to be set aside.

LN ... you have made it abundantly clear, over a number of threads, that this is your take on 'principles'.

You have regularly advocated that the end justifies the means and that you do not care what happens to other people just as long as you are OK

This is one of the prime factors of why America is the deep shit that it is today.

If you are indicative of the younger generation of America it behoves ill for your country when you finally get to run things.