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Old 27th December 2007, 11:02 PM
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Well, they fit the internationally recognized definition of a terrorist force, as recognized by the USA and the EU which I assume youre a part of, so your personal opinion of whether they are or not is moot, not to mention in error. Furthermore the Taliban wasnt a terrorist force, Al Qaeda which they gave safe haven to was and they refused to turn them over, hence the legitimate use of force.
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Old 2nd November 2008, 01:17 AM
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As I see it there is a different motive behind the Taliban and the PKK, the Taliban are terrorists, while I wouldn't call the PKK terrorists...
There is an (misses)information at those sentences.

First jeronimo is not a native name, It is an espanol/Mexican derivation that sounds like American native.

Any activity against Army Reservations is called militan action.
Any activity against Civil Reservation (ıncluding Politicians) is called Terrorist activity.

So you know this, You name it again. You are not native, you are fake.

At last, Any activity against stupid is called stupidency.
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Old 2nd November 2008, 01:41 AM
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There is an (misses)information at those sentences.

First jeronimo is not a native name, It is an espanol/Mexican derivation that sounds like American native.

Any activity against Army Reservations is called militan action.
Any activity against Civil Reservation (ıncluding Politicians) is called Terrorist activity.

So you know this, You name it again. You are not native, you are fake.

At last, Any activity against stupid is called stupidency.
Geronimo was an Apache indian, the spelling of "Geronimo" was just the adaptation of the name.
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Nope, I'm not going to waste half the day explaining something which you will just dismiss without consideration and a glib comment - try paying attention for the next 8 years and not sleeping through them as you appear to have done for the last 8.
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Old 2nd November 2008, 04:56 AM
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Geronimo was an Apache indian.
A great American who fought to protect his land and people from genocidal foreign invaders.
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The question comes down to giving people that live in your country a fair shake and for the most part Turkey has done that. Kurds had some legitimate issues with not being able to get their language on TV etc but thats changing slowly. It would have happened a lot faster if they hadnt started an armed separatist terrorist war in 1984 that has claimed 30,000 lives of Turkish citizens.
Thats what apologists for state repression always say, and it's never true. For all your apologetics, the PKK have pretty wide support among Turkish Kurds, not least because of the extremely violent methods employed by Turkey:

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Shortly after the coup, imprisoned Grey Wolves members were offered amnesty if they agreed to fight the Kurdish minority and the outlawed Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) in the south-east of the country[15] as well as the Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia (ASALA). They then went on to fight separatist Kurds, under the guidance of special forces nicknamed the "Counter-Guerrilla", killing and torturing thousands in the 1980s, and also carrying "false flag attacks in which the Counter-Guerrilla attacked villages, dressed up as PKK fighters, and raped and executed people randomly".[16] The dirty war had a toll of 37,000 victims.[17] Retired staff lieutenant colonel Talat Turhan, who has devoted three decades to exposing the Counter-Guerrilla, confirmed that they had engaged in torture, having been a victim in July 1972.[18] In his book Zordur Zorda Gülmek, journalist Oğuz Güven enumerated the methods employed, including but not limited to bastinado, urination, and submersion in sewage.[19] According to an article in the Neue Zürcher Zeitung, the Counter-Guerrilla had their headquarters in the building of the US DIA military secret service.[20] In addition, members of this "deep state" assassinated the leader of the ASALA, Hagop Hagopian, on 28 April 1988.
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Old 2nd November 2008, 11:52 AM
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Furthermore the Taliban wasnt a terrorist force, Al Qaeda which they gave safe haven to was and they refused to turn them over, hence the legitimate use of force.
Hence the ILLEGITIMATE use of force. This is simply apologetics for illegal aggression.
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Thats what apologists for state repression always say, and it's never true. For all your apologetics, the PKK have pretty wide support among Turkish Kurds, not least because of the extremely violent methods employed by Turkey: <------MissesInfo=Propogate=Pump=Support for Terror.

There you have so many Apologistic statements coming from a dark logistic where the HeadQuarter of PPK named "APO" has been extremely violated. That reminds me farts on US.oppressed Turkish media that pumps Turk-Kurd seperation.

I do not bet new president would support that CIA politics any more, Changing all like you quarter head heads.

Why Turkey should bear an organisation that terrors in borders.....Eliminance of terrorism was not named as Extremism With a Pretty wide Support of US Citizens.
Your statement as "Pretty Wide Support to Terrorism" has taken years from world peace Just because that might represent some to be named as Terrorist Countries.

If Turkey Should use a bit of those extremely violent methods USA has put on so called Terrorist support in Iraq.
There would be nothing to chew on your mouth. And No "Apo_log_y" at all.
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