Will McCain/Palin Bounce back?

[Tom Joad]

Bad news for America.

I had assumed that that trace of brain activity voters showed in 2006 was going to carry over to 2008.

Looks like I may have been wrong.

Sep. 7th

Gallup = McCain +3
Rassmussen = Tie

[clownboy]

Well, as I was fond of reminding the Democrats in the last two elections, the popular vote only matters where it appoints electors. It is the state electoral votes that matter. Almost every "red" state from the last two election are now in play, including some of the states that have been slamdunk red for a long time now. The "blue" states are largely unchanged.

All the first blush electoral maps I've seen thus far don't look so good for the Republican candidate. Look at Colorado, New Mexico, Iowa and even Virginia. If any of these go blue, game over.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by clownboy

Well, as I was fond of reminding the Democrats in the last two elections, the popular vote only matters where it appoints electors. It is the state electoral votes that matter. Almost every "red" state from the last two election are now in play, including some of the states that have been slamdunk red for a long time now. The "blue" states are largely unchanged.

All the first blush electoral maps I've seen thus far don't look so good for the Republican candidate. Look at Colorado, New Mexico, Iowa and even Virginia. If any of these go blue, game over.

I would love to see the winner of the popular vote lose the election again. I hate the electoral college.

[clownboy]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I would love to see the winner of the popular vote lose the election again. I hate the electoral college.

You're not alone in that dislike, in fact I believe you're among the majority. However the American people feel about the EC, they don't want to do anything about it. I've heard the same complaint throughout my life, but when it comes time to talk about changing it, the room is suddenly vacant.

[Black Lance]

Originally Posted by potter

Then there is the sea of white.....fat white people. That's representing America alright.

It's like find Waldo.....

Try to find the 36 black delegates among the 2344 lily white delegates.....

"Maybe" that's because black racism is so strong in this country that Republicans view any investment in appealing to black voters as a waste of electoral resources?

94 to 1.

Come on librals, fight those ignorant racist black people!

[clownboy]

You gotta admit BL, this time they didn't even make the attempt. More and more folks of color were joining the republican leadership. JC Watts was the Sarah Palin of his day, only they never went there. But the RNC divorced them at this convention, there wasn't even an attempt. Btw, this is the party of Lincoln we're talking about. The original party of civil rights. They have NEVER before given up on the black vote.

And it's not just that, all their chips, and the future of the party, lays on Palin's shoulders, not McCain's. Were all the republican congressional members in attendance? No? Why do you think that is? Because they're scrambling to get re-elected without party support. The Maverick spent the whole convention telling them congress was full of crooks, and he didn't except his own party in that, he specifically included them.

[Washington]

I think McCain is desperate to distance himself from the idea that he is a 'typical Republican' and as well he should because he isn't one. That said, he still needs the support of the ones who are typical so he can't lean on them too hard.

In many ways I think the idea that women voters will be drawn to Palin as a female candidate for VP will be undermined if independents are more energisedby her than him. They may decide to wait for 4 or 8 years when she could well be top of the ticket.

McCain-Palin must be doing well, however, if they are up in the polls. Check out www.electoral-vote.com to see how the ECVs are panning out, although they are a little behind on their polling data at the moment.

[Underhill]

Originally Posted by Washington

I think McCain is desperate to distance himself from the idea that he is a 'typical Republican' and as well he should because he isn't one. That said, he still needs the support of the ones who are typical so he can't lean on them too hard.

This is a farce. McCain isn't different from Bush or the rest of the republicans. He is the same on virtually every issue. And Palin even more so...

I agree he is desperate to distance himself. Nobody has ever won with such a low favorability for the incumbent of their party.

[sinterest]

My money is on McCain/Palin. Obama is blowing it BIG TIME!

Just yesterday Barrak gave them the final sound bite they needed for their 527s.

On "This Week" on ABC: Barrak: "My Muslim faith" ---Gulp - that should sew it all up.

Secondly, the Republicans talked about how McCain and Palin have "bucked their Party and Obama hasn't". Again on "This Week", George goated Barrak over and over to give examples of when he had gone against his party (Democratic). Poor not so clever Barrak hemed, hawed and struggled to come up with times that he had bucked the Democratic party i.e., he again let them define the agenda and missed the opportunity to say something like: If I were a Rebublican, you can bet I would buck my party. As a Democrat, I don't need to.

Like 2004, the 527s will decide this election too.........

Unless:

Barrak and Biden really kick ass in the debates.

It sure is interesting by gosh. It surely is.

[toolman846]

I'm waiting for Biden to come down with some "mysterious" malady, that "forces him relutantly to withdraw" his VP candidacy, so the reeling Dems can try and squeeze Hillary on the ticket in his place, to try and win back all those folks they lost the instant the Republicans nominated Palin.

[sinterest]

Originally Posted by toolman846

I'm waiting for Biden to come down with some "mysterious" malady, that "forces him relutantly to withdraw" his VP candidacy, so the reeling Dems can try and squeeze Hillary on the ticket in his place, to try and win back all those folks they lost the instant the Republicans nominated Palin.

Brilliant idea Jim!
Obama should have picked her as Kennedy picked Johnson and Regan picked Bush. He blew it when personal feelings trumped his desire to assure a win.

[Black Lance]

Originally Posted by clownboy

You gotta admit BL, this time they didn't even make the attempt. More and more folks of color were joining the republican leadership. JC Watts was the Sarah Palin of his day, only they never went there. But the RNC divorced them at this convention, there wasn't even an attempt. Btw, this is the party of Lincoln we're talking about. The original party of civil rights. They have NEVER before given up on the black vote.

Clownboy, would you honestly invest resourses in trying to court the black vote in this election? What would be the incentive to do this with blacks obviously voting "for their own kind"?

If I were a GOP strategist I would not invest a copper in the black vote, but rather would focus my efforts on motivating my base and reaching out to the middle.

And it's not just that, all their chips, and the future of the party, lays on Palin's shoulders, not McCain's. Were all the republican congressional members in attendance? No? Why do you think that is? Because they're scrambling to get re-elected without party support. The Maverick spent the whole convention telling them congress was full of crooks, and he didn't except his own party in that, he specifically included them.

Very true, but not all that pertinent to what I said.

[potter]

BL...it really bothers you that the black people have broken away from their white masters and will vote for their beneift this election doesn't it? You're just harping on it left and right. It's OK for whites to keep the blacks down but let the blacks rise up and vote in their best interests and you have a cow......

You think Obama's gonna enslave you BL? You don't want to be a plantation slave?

After decades of voting to keep whites in power....they have a chance and all you do is critisize. You really hate the darkies doncha?

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Black Lance

"Maybe" that's because black racism is so strong in this country that Republicans view any investment in appealing to black voters as a waste of electoral resources?

94 to 1.

Come on librals, fight those ignorant racist black people!

I understand your fear Lance. Those black guys are scary.

All that selective breeding by your white ancestors to get strong field hands. Shit, most black kids in High School are benching over 300 lbs.

Must be terrifying for a preppie white boy like you.

[potter]

BL may as well buy his preferred brand of KY now cause when them black folks take charge they is gonna get even with that white boy......

Oh wait...I fergot, it's the white guys that like that buggery.......

[Black Lance]

Both of your posts are total non-sequistors, and don't need to be dignified with a rebuttal.

You are so right TJ and Potter. Why must I keep mentioning the incredible racism on display in this election every time one of you two mentions the lack of black participation in the other parties? Why can't I just think like a good Democrat and accept that black people cannot be racists, no matter how racially motivated their behavior?

When it comes to race relations in this country, you two personify why the left is the problem.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Black Lance

Both of your posts are total non-sequistors.

I know, why must I keep mentioning the incredible racism on display in this election? Why can't I just think like a good Democrat and accept that black people cannot be racists, no matter how racially motivated their behavior?

When it comes to race relations in this country, you two morons personify why the left is the problem.

They all carry straight razors too.

[Justin]

USA Today/Gallup Poll has McCain/Palin up by 4.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...-07-poll_N.htm

I'll accept the "you were right, Justin"'s now.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Justin

USA Today/Gallup Poll has McCain/Palin up by 4.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...-07-poll_N.htm

I'll accept the "you were right, Justin"'s now.

Read what I said for comprehension. Oh, I forgot. You can't. You're from Texas. Sorry.

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

You're on. I'll say Obama by three on Sep. 10th. Same two polls. Loser has to pour a warm beer over his head.

[Justin]

You're just delaying the inevitable.