Will McCain/Palin Bounce back?

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Justin

You're just delaying the inevitable.

Sep 8th

Gallup = McCain +5
Rassmussen = McCain +1

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...lls/index.html

An average of +3, so if it holds for 2 more days you win.

[toolman846]

"He blew it when personal feelings trumped his desire to assure a win."

Yeah, he'll be learning that lesson the hard way - politics is the last place on earth you want personal feelings interferring with the game plan.

The only hard and fast rule is to win - any way, at any cost. Nobody remembers the losers. Look up the name Tilden (presidential candidate). It's an education.

[Justin]

I don't think Hillary would have been a very good VP, but I do think there were much better choices than Biden.

[sinterest]

Originally Posted by Justin

I don't think Hillary would have been a very good VP, but I do think there were much better choices than Biden.

I like Biden and have for many years though I am not too thrilled with his support of the credit card companies which he and his state coddle.
However, any pick other than Hillary would have likely produced Palin.

The more I dig, the more I discover that she was being pushed very secretly by the most powerful right wingers for a couple of years.

Currently I am leaning toward believing that the GOP would have picked her even if hillary were on the ticket.

One thing is for sure: The Republicans are far more effective at running campaigns than the Democrats without a doubt.

[Tom Joad]

Sep 9

Gallup = McCain +5
Rassmussen = Tie

[sinterest]

Originally Posted by clownboy

You're not alone in that dislike, in fact I believe you're among the majority. However the American people feel about the EC, they don't want to do anything about it. I've heard the same complaint throughout my life, but when it comes time to talk about changing it, the room is suddenly vacant.

True, but for very sound reasons CB.
If I'm not mistaken, the constitution must be changed and everyone knows all the relatively small states will never give up their advantage by voting to ratify an amendment. Can you see a super majority voting for that huge change?

Secondly, that would render a handful of states controlling all national elections. All media coverage would be relagated to New York, California, and a couple of others.

Pro or con, we must admit that it just ain't gonna happen.

The realistic possibility of a good change is Instant runoff voting. That would make a huge difference.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by sinterest

the constitution must be changed and everyone knows all the relatively small states will never give up their advantage by voting to ratify an amendment.

True, but there is a way around it. It would still be a tough row to hoe, but not impossible like the constitutional amendment process. Here is an old article on it. I'm not sure where the effort stands today, though I'm sure there is still a long road ahead. Another election where the winner of the popular vote loses the electoral college could rile people up enough to get something like this through enough state legislatures.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/22/us...electoral.html

[sinterest]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

True, but there is a way around it. It would still be a tough row to hoe, but not impossible like the constitutional amendment process. Here is an old article on it. I'm not sure where the effort stands today, though I'm sure there is still a long road ahead. Another election where the winner of the popular vote loses the electoral college could rile people up enough to get something like this through enough state legislatures.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/22/us...electoral.html

Thanks for reminding me TJ. I had forgotten about that "end run". I am so sick of the way that it is working now. I am all for it.

On the bright side, however, most of US who do not live and vote in Ohio, Penn, Mich, Virginia, Mo. or Colorado will not be bombarded for the next two months with Karl Rove inspired phone calls and advertisments.

[Tom Joad]

Sep. 10

Gallup = McCain +5
Rassmussen = Obama +1

Average of both = McCain +2

Justin's predicition of McCain +3 is closest.

As promised I will get an ice cold brewski and drink it.

[Justin]

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Justin

Eat shit and bark at the moon.

[Justin]

That reminds me of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LAnmnS0-9g

[clownboy]

Here's the glaring oddity with all this polling. The state by state electoral polling has remained stable over the same time period when the national polling is moving one way and another. They seem to be talking to different ends of the elephant.

[potter]

Originally Posted by clownboy

They seem to be talking to different ends of the elephant.

Well put....

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Justin

That reminds me of:

And here's what happens to smart assed punks like you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of1Q3O7Fr2E

[Underhill]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Sep. 10

Gallup = McCain +5
Rassmussen = Obama +1

Average of both = McCain +2

Justin's predicition of McCain +3 is closest.

As promised I will get an ice cold brewski and drink it.

Gallup is obviously conservatively biased!

[Tom Joad]

Sep. 11

Gallup = McCain +4
Rassmussen = Tie

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...lls/index.html

[Tom Joad]

Sep. 12

Gallup = McCain +3
Rassmussen = McCain +3

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...lls/index.html