Why Liberals Hate and Fear Conservative Women

[elalumno]

But the right complaining about us demonizing her is fucking pathetic after what they've done to Hillary, Kerry and tried to do to Obama. They lie, twist the truth and are much better at it than the left... primarily because they have more experience.

What is so ironic is tht the "liberals" or "left" or whatever you wish to call them and yourselves have now more than embraced and adopted and fallen in love with the tactics that you have decried so much in the past and are now decrying in the above quoted passage.

Your hypocrisy is showing.

[toolman846]

"It would still be historic. But the fact that she's an extremist conservative probably has a lot to do with our not wanting her there. I would think that fact is obvious"

Well, I guess if it's OK for all you "our" liberals to NOT want her there, it's just as Ok for all us "we" conservatives TO want her there. That's why we have elections.

And you're right. Your distaste, bordering on rabid hatred, of her, is patently obvious.

[elalumno]

And you're right. Your distaste, bordering on rabid hatred, of her, is patently obvious.

Hey but that's okay jim, because the other side did it first.......

[Underhill]

Originally Posted by toolman846

"It would still be historic. But the fact that she's an extremist conservative probably has a lot to do with our not wanting her there. I would think that fact is obvious"

Well, I guess if it's OK for all you "our" liberals to NOT want her there, it's just as Ok for all us "we" conservatives TO want her there. That's why we have elections.

And you're right. Your distaste, bordering on rabid hatred, of her, is patently obvious.

Now you are starting to sound like El. On a personal level I couldn't care less about her. She worries me only because the American people are just stupid enough to vote in a good looking women who would completely destroy the country.

[Underhill]

Originally Posted by elalumno

What is so ironic is tht the "liberals" or "left" or whatever you wish to call them and yourselves have now more than embraced and adopted and fallen in love with the tactics that you have decried so much in the past and are now decrying in the above quoted passage.

Your hypocrisy is showing.

After watching Kerry loose because of the right Using these tactics, yeah I wish the left would use them more because obviously they work. Just look at the lies McCain is spreading to see the problem with the right. And the left may be making an effort, but they still are being outdone by the right on every side.

[elalumno]

Now you are starting to sound like El.

In other words, Jim was 100% correct.

On a personal level I couldn't care less about her.

That would be why you are so obssessed with here then? Or is it only her kids you are obsessed wtih?

She worries me only because the American people are just stupid enough to vote in a good looking women who would completely destroy the country.

Right, completely destroy the country.... America would cease to exist if Palin becomes VP.

Man, good thing you aren't prone to exaggeration or obsessing over Palin.

[elalumno]

After watching Kerry loose because of the right loosing these tactics, yeah I wish the left would use them more because obviously they work.

Then you whine about how you don't advocate hate and lies. Once again, your hypocrisy is showing.

Just look at the lies McCain is spreading to see the problem with the right. And the left may be making an effort, but they still are being outdone by the right on every side.

Well then, based on your view, the left better increase the hate. To hell with the issues, just more hate.

Then again, when this is pointed out to you you whine like a sissy that you are about the issues.

[Black Lance]

Originally Posted by Underhill

It would still be historic. But the fact that she's an extremist conservative probably has a lot to do with our not wanting her there. I would think that fact is obvious.

Yes, that's precisely the point. The media has not discussed the "historic" nature of Palin's candidacy in the glowing terms it reserved for the Clinton campaign because the media is liberal and Palin is a conservative.

[Underhill]

Originally Posted by Black Lance

Yes, that's precisely the point. The media has not discussed the "historic" nature of Palin's candidacy in the glowing terms it reserved for the Clinton campaign because the media is liberal and Palin is a conservative.

They most certainly are.

[Underhill]

Originally Posted by elalumno

Well then, based on your view, the left better increase the hate. To hell with the issues, just more hate.

Then again, when this is pointed out to you you whine like a sissy that you are about the issues.

It's clear to me you don't want to debate issues, just name call. Thank you for that demonstration proving exactly what I'm talking about.

[Justin]

Palin Should Strike Fear in Democrats http://news.yahoo.com/s/realclearpol...VO8DVbpdf9wxIF

"You arrogant ass! You've killed us!" So said the executive officer of a Soviet submarine to his captain in Tom Clancy's novel "The Hunt for Red October" after the captain had recklessly fired a torpedo that homed in on his own sub.

NBC's David Gregory must have had similar thoughts as he noted, ruefully, that the news media's assault on Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin boosted substantially the television audience for her acceptance speech Wednesday night.

No friend of Barack Obama -- and the last week has demonstrated he has no better, nor more unscrupulous, friends than those in the news media -- can be happy about that.

Journalists last week cast aside the mask of objectivity to reveal they are so deeply in the tank for Mr. Obama most have grown gills. For six days, Sarah Palin and her family were subjected to a relentless barrage of innuendo. Journalists were trying to "define" her before she had an opportunity to introduce herself to the people in the lower 48. She was portrayed as an ignorant redneck from a hick town who should be home caring for her children instead of running for high public office.

Then Sarah Palin got her opportunity to speak, and her enemies learned firsthand why her nickname is "Sarah Barracuda."

Dismiss if you will the rapturous response to Ms. Palin's speech by the delegates in the convention hall and the posters on conservative blogs. The best testament to its power was the lame response of the Obama campaign. They noted she had the help of a speechwriter (the very talented Matt Scully) in preparing her remarks. Well, duh. Every major political figure has speechwriters. Sarah Palin works fine without a script. It's Barack Obama who ums and ahs without a teleprompter.

In my lifetime, I've only heard three or four speeches (all by Ronald Reagan) that I thought were as good or better than Sarah Palin's. She's as much a natural in politics as Michael Jordan was in basketball.

"Several moderate Democrat friends of mine have been e-mailing -- few if any would ever vote for McCain -- but all agree Palin was very strong," Michael Crowley wrote on The New Republic's blog. "The more liberal among them are a little panicked."

With good reason. With a smile on her face, Ms. Palin sliced and diced Barack Obama with the skill she dresses a moose she just shot. There were a host of good lines which I'm sure we'll see in McCain commercials in the near future. But ultimately the most effective may be this one: "In small towns, we don't know quite what to make of a candidate who lavishes praise on working people when they are listening, and then talks about how bitterly they cling to their religion and guns when those people aren't listening."

What gives this line its power is that Sarah Palin is definitely part of the "we" -- the small town, blue-collar Americans who will decide this election.
Only once in modern times has a vice presidential candidate swung an election. Lyndon Johnson brought Texas and Alabama to John F. Kennedy in 1960, states that otherwise would have been suspicious of a Catholic liberal from New England. I think Sarah Palin will be the second. She has changed the nature of this race in ways ominous for Mr. Obama.

First, this race is no longer between a candidate who advocates change and the status quo, as Democrats would like to frame it. It's between two different visions of change, and between a ticket that's actually delivered reform, and a ticket that just talks about it. The argument that John McCain represents a third term for George W. Bush was strained to start with. It's ludicrous now.

Second, the Republican base is more fired up, and the party more united than it's been since Ronald Reagan ran for his second term. Conservatives see in Sarah Palin Ronald Reagan in a dress, the brains and backbone of Margaret Thatcher in a younger, prettier package. The Grand Old Party has a bright new face.

Mr. Obama owes much of his new troubles to his friends in the news media. Republicans -- and independent and Democratic women appalled by their sexism -- were enraged by the vicious assaults on Sarah Palin and her family.

After he learned his fleet had attacked Pearl Harbor before a formal declaration of war, Japanese Adm. Isoroku Yamamoto is reputed to have said: "I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

The vice presidential debate is Oct. 2. If I were Joe Biden, I would be very, very afraid.

[Tom Joad]

I guarentee you one thing. If McCain is elected I will pray every day that he stays in good health.

[elalumno]

It's clear to me you don't want to debate issues,

Yo whine about that?! The "issues" to you are a pregnant 16 year old, and other such stupidities. You wouldn't, know a real issue if it bit you on the ass.

just name call. Thank you for that demonstration proving exactly what I'm talking about.

What a pathetic whiner. You get caught advocating hate and nastiness "because they did it" and then try and skulk off.

[Underhill]

Originally Posted by elalumno

Yo whine about that?! The "issues" to you are a pregnant 16 year old, and other such stupidities. You wouldn't, know a real issue if it bit you on the ass.

What a pathetic whiner. You get caught advocating hate and nastiness "because they did it" and then try and skulk off.

You complaining about hate and nastiness is like a bulldog bitching about a poodle drooling. You are one of the nastiest, most pathetic shit stirrers on the forum...

Obviously the issue isn't the 16 yr old. Never was. The issue is her mothers stupid policies. Which, I gather from another thread, you agree with me on. So what the fuck is your problem? Not breastfed as a child or what?

[elalumno]

You complaining about hate and nastiness is like a bulldog bitching about a poodle drooling. You are one of the nastiest, most pathetic shit stirrers on the forum...

I can see why catching you in your lies and errors makes you feel that way.

Obviously the issue isn't the 16 yr old. Never was.

But you sure used her.

The issue is her mothers stupid policies.

So you attack the mothers policies by exploiting the 16 year old. got it.

Which, I gather from another thread, you agree with me on. So what the fuck is your problem? Not breastfed as a child or what?

My "problem". None really. I just like to point out how the hatred and politics of villification are used. And you are a prime user of them.

You don't address issues, you attack children.

[Dave]

Are the republican party the upholders of family values? They certainly come across as wanting to be perceived that way. As such governor palin's private life is fair game. After all this is public office she is running for

[Suraklin]

Is the general feeling then from the right that the US democrats should vote for Palin merely because she is a woman?

Or that they are not allowed to dislike her because she is a woman?

Just so as I'm clear what exactly the point of this is...

[elalumno]

Are the republican party the upholders of family values?

Well they claim to be.

As such governor palin's private life is fair game.

Indeed, HER life certainly is.

After all this is public office she is running for

And her 16 year old daughter is not.

Even Obama sees that and has said so.

[elalumno]

Just so as I'm clear what exactly the point of this is...

That's easy.

She is running for office, her 16 year old daughter is not. Even obama sees that and has said that children should be off limits.

[Underhill]

Originally Posted by elalumno

And her 16 year old daughter is not.

As long as she wants to dictate policy that will affect my daughters, her daughter most certainly is.

And we aren't talking about burning her daughter at the stake, we are simply pointing out that if her mothers policies haven't worked at home, why would they on the national level?