Hollywood out of step with American morals: poll

[LiberalNation]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081117/...YHupW3VHkDW7oF

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) – A majority of Americans say Hollywood doesn't share their moral values, according to a poll commissioned by the Anti-Defamation League, a group that fights anti-Semitism.

Sixty-one percent of those surveyed said that religious values in America are "under attack," and 59% agreed that "the people who run the TV networks and the major movie studios do not share the religious and moral values of most Americans."

The poll, titled "American Attitudes on Religion, Moral Values and Hollywood," was conducted by the Marttila Communications Group, which surveyed 1,000 adults nationwide. It was released Friday at the ADL's annual meeting in Los Angeles.

"These findings point to the challenges that we face in dealing with issues of religion in society," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL national director. "The belief that religion is under attack underlies the drive to incorporate more religion into American public life. Disturbingly, 43% of Americans believe there is an organized campaign by Hollywood and the national media to weaken the influence of religious values in this country."

Among the survey's findings:

-- 61% of respondents agree that "religious values are under attack in this country," while 36% disagree with that statement.

-- 43% said that Hollywood and the national media are waging an organized campaign to "weaken the influence of religious values in this country."

-- 63% disagree with the statement that "the movie and television industries are pretty much run by Jews," while only 22% agree with that point. When ADL conducted its first survey on anti-Semitic attitudes, in 1964, nearly half of the respondents believed that the television and film industries were run by Jews.

-- Nearly 40% support the notion that "dangerous ideas should be banned from public school libraries," and nearly the same number disagree with the statement that "censoring books is an old-fashioned idea."

-- Nearly half of those surveyed -- 49% -- believe that the United States is becoming "too tolerant in its acceptance of different ideas and lifestyles; 47% disagree with that statement.

The survey has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percent.

[Neko]

"Filth! Nothing but disgusting, heathen perversion on tv, at the movies, on the internet! Our values are being destroyed! Satan himself is beamed into our homes via satellite!"
"So... uh... are you going to turn it off then?"
"Soon."

[Carico]

Originally Posted by LiberalNation

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081117/...YHupW3VHkDW7oF

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) – A majority of Americans say Hollywood doesn't share their moral values, according to a poll commissioned by the Anti-Defamation League, a group that fights anti-Semitism.

Sixty-one percent of those surveyed said that religious values in America are "under attack," and 59% agreed that "the people who run the TV networks and the major movie studios do not share the religious and moral values of most Americans."

The poll, titled "American Attitudes on Religion, Moral Values and Hollywood," was conducted by the Marttila Communications Group, which surveyed 1,000 adults nationwide. It was released Friday at the ADL's annual meeting in Los Angeles.

"These findings point to the challenges that we face in dealing with issues of religion in society," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL national director. "The belief that religion is under attack underlies the drive to incorporate more religion into American public life. Disturbingly, 43% of Americans believe there is an organized campaign by Hollywood and the national media to weaken the influence of religious values in this country."

Among the survey's findings:

-- 61% of respondents agree that "religious values are under attack in this country," while 36% disagree with that statement.

-- 43% said that Hollywood and the national media are waging an organized campaign to "weaken the influence of religious values in this country."

-- 63% disagree with the statement that "the movie and television industries are pretty much run by Jews," while only 22% agree with that point. When ADL conducted its first survey on anti-Semitic attitudes, in 1964, nearly half of the respondents believed that the television and film industries were run by Jews.

-- Nearly 40% support the notion that "dangerous ideas should be banned from public school libraries," and nearly the same number disagree with the statement that "censoring books is an old-fashioned idea."

-- Nearly half of those surveyed -- 49% -- believe that the United States is becoming "too tolerant in its acceptance of different ideas and lifestyles; 47% disagree with that statement.

The survey has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percent.

Yup. We are in a global anti-Christ movement which is making away for the final anti-Christ.

Only 5 % of Europe goes to church.

The media is so anti-Christian that there is only one news station that stands up for the Ten Commandments.

Television, movies, and Hollywood support sin.

And the election of Obama proves that the anti-Christ will be loved and revered by the world. Here is a comment by Obama in regard to teen-age abortion; "We need the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it's like to be a teen-age mom."

Instead of wanting a teen-ager to take responsibility for her sexuality and promiscuity, Obama wants to reward her by allowing her to kill her baby if she gets pregnant. That isn't love, it's hatred for the unborn baby and for the teen-ager. That's how the anti-Christ will deceive people; by calling evil good and good evil. They will turn right into wrong and wrong into right.

But this was all prophesied: 2 Thessalonians 2:11,

"For this reason, I will send them a powerful delusion so they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness."

[elalumno]

anti-Christ movement

Seeing some of the messages on this board, of those that supposedly follow christ, it's no wonder.

[Neko]

I'll second that.

[Neko]

Originally Posted by Carico

But this was all prophesied: 2 Thessalonians 2:11,

"For this reason, I will send them a powerful delusion so they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness."

Perhaps I'm being hyper-critical here, but I think that if God really loved people as much as he says, he wouldn't resort to the sort of entrapment techniques that'd get him thrown out of any court you'd care to name.

[potter]

Originally Posted by Neko

"Filth! Nothing but disgusting, heathen perversion on tv, at the movies, on the internet! Our values are being destroyed! Satan himself is beamed into our homes via satellite!"
"So... uh... are you going to turn it off then?"
"Soon."

Is is a bit hard to take the OP seriously considering Americas obsession with watching and emulating everything hollywood does.....

Now if we really want to be serious with "out of touch", one only needs to look east to DC......

[potter]

Originally Posted by Carico

television, movies, and Hollywood support sin.

Television, Hollywood and the movies are only giving the people what they want and what will sell. If the people were the good Christians you envision them to be they would reject the "evil" you see in these entities. Instead they embrace it.

[Suraklin]

Instead of wanting a teen-ager to take responsibility for her sexuality and promiscuity, Obama wants to reward her by allowing her to kill her baby if she gets pregnant.

Whereas you would stick to making our hypothetical pregnant teen bear her rapist's baby? That'll teach her to walk around while being female dammit!

I'm with Neko - any god who'd screw with us poor humans in such a fashion might as well BE the devil. I had an RE teacher once who posed a hypothetical - if god refuses to prove his existence and demands faith alone then why would he promulgate his word in the form of a written book, how can we know if the book was 'sponsored' by god or is in fact false words sent to deceive by lucifer? How would we be able to know the difference, especially in light of a number of passages where god creates pretty extreme tests to screw with his most faithful? You sure you didn't pick the wrong side already?

(not saying I support that view, or really care, but it was an interesting thought exercise when I was a teen)

re: Hollywood - I would argue that at the heart they support the basic core values of most religions - i.e. that people doing good eventually win over people doing bad. Perhaps there are a few too many bullets and babes along for the ride but essentially they push the good is best idea.

Not because they are upstanding folks but because that is what sells.

If you want Quo Vadis 2 you might have to find some funding though... I don't think may people go to the cinema to be preached at...

[SCREAM]

Originally Posted by Carico

Yup. We are in a global anti-Christ movement which is making away for the final anti-Christ.

Only 5 % of Europe goes to church.

The media is so anti-Christian that there is only one news station that stands up for the Ten Commandments.

Television, movies, and Hollywood support sin.

And the election of Obama proves that the anti-Christ will be loved and revered by the world. Here is a comment by Obama in regard to teen-age abortion; "We need the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it's like to be a teen-age mom."

Instead of wanting a teen-ager to take responsibility for her sexuality and promiscuity, Obama wants to reward her by allowing her to kill her baby if she gets pregnant. [/b]

I've never heard of abortion being refered to as an award before.

[SCREAM]

Originally Posted by Neko

"Filth! Nothing but disgusting, heathen perversion on tv, at the movies, on the internet! Our values are being destroyed! Satan himself is beamed into our homes via satellite!"
"So... uh... are you going to turn it off then?"
"Soon."

Yeah, Them darn sinners are just ruinin' this country. The next thing you know they'll be electing a black man for Pres...

[Zan de Man]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT9xuXQjxMM

[Bonniedundee]

Everyone knows Holywood is vomit-inducingly liberal. What is the big news here?

You know where it reminds me of?

[Gilles de Rais]

Originally Posted by Bonniedundee

Everyone knows Holywood is vomit-inducingly liberal.

The people there, yes.

The stuff they put out? Please. First, it's as Neko said. Second, Hollywood movies and stuff are conservative in values if not demeanour. The movies with a liberal/political message tend to be indie movies or score badly.

The people who answered this poll simply deluded themselves in believing their own hype... 'We' are good, moderate, conservative christians with values (when they are nothing of the sort) and Hollywood is a den of inequity full of evil satan-worshipping liberals (when the players might be like that but their products are not).

To me, this shows the strength of propaganda. A bit like the media denouncing the 'liberal media'... And, boy, do many Americans, with their persecution complex, lap it up...

[ninjalooter1701]

Not only is Hollywood "out of touch" with America, apparently it is not anti-semitic enough.

[Carico]

Originally Posted by SCREAM

Yeah, Them darn sinners are just ruinin' this country. The next thing you know they'll be electing a black man for Pres...

Sorry, but it's not love to encourage your children to engage in promiscuity and violence. But those who call evil good don't know that. So instead, they do everything they can to lead their children to everlasting death. That's hate, not love.

[Gilles de Rais]

Originally Posted by Carico

Sorry, but it's not love to encourage your children to engage in promiscuity and violence. But those who call evil good don't know that. So instead, they do everything they can to lead their children to everlasting death. That's hate, not love.

If, once we are dead, i got to listen to you as you keep on repeating this one sentence for all eternity, I'll bloody kill you...

Change your mantra, man. Show variety, I don't know, blame witches. Or something.

[elalumno]

Sorry, but it's not love to encourage your children to engage in promiscuity

Unless it's the church telling them to fuck like rabbits and have dozens of children.....

and violence.

Unless it's killing those heathens that won't convert.... Torquemada had it down.

But those who call evil good don't know that.

Oh so true... having a dozen kids when you can't feed them is godly. Killing those infidels... oops, I menat heathes is also christlike...

So instead, they do everything they can to lead their children to everlasting death. That's hate, not love.

Again, let me back you on this... having a dozen kids when you can't feed them is true love. Killing those infidels... oops, I menat heathes is also true christian love...

Not an iota of fucking hypocrisy in all that...

[CookieD18]

Originally Posted by Suraklin

Whereas you would stick to making our hypothetical pregnant teen bear her rapist's baby? That'll teach her to walk around while being female dammit!

I'm with Neko - any god who'd screw with us poor humans in such a fashion might as well BE the devil. I had an RE teacher once who posed a hypothetical - if god refuses to prove his existence and demands faith alone then why would he promulgate his word in the form of a written book, how can we know if the book was 'sponsored' by god or is in fact false words sent to deceive by lucifer? How would we be able to know the difference, especially in light of a number of passages where god creates pretty extreme tests to screw with his most faithful? You sure you didn't pick the wrong side already?

(not saying I support that view, or really care, but it was an interesting thought exercise when I was a teen)

May have to use this hypothetical ponderance in the future - it rocks.


Re: Carico - I dont expect them to go 2 posts without referring to Hitler, abortion or GAWD. The posts inbetween merely set up the next post to refer to the above.

Gilles they will not change their tune - they are on a divine mission remember? We heathens will be struck down by god any second now. Just like all those other nasty people in history.

...Im shaking in my boots.

...Hollywood sells...but people in the US still give away so much money to churches they run like businesses for profit. I think there are god-fearing christians who see themselves as such but still unwittingly watch these sinful hollywood rouses into violence, ungodliness and the like.

Maybe Carico can go back to his own sort and convince them to end their wicked ways before preaching to us?