Racial profiling

[Carico]

Racial profiling is one of the most backwards, irrational and racist practices in which one can indulge. According to the reasoning of racial profilists, we can't get a description of a suspect because it might offend those who look like the suspect.

So if a black man with black hair praising Allah is witnessed by many people committing a crime, we're supposed to look for a suspect with blond hair, white skin and blue eyes because it might offend others who have black skin and black hair. Not only is that completely irrational, it's racist. It's showing that skin color is what determines guilt or innocence.

Yet this is the kind of backwards "thinking" that is pervading America; irrationality. So why even look for a suspect if we can't get a description of him? The answer is that either we can't look for a suspect or we pin the crime on people who weren't witnessed committing it! This backwards racism is what Obama calls "love"; determining guilt or innocence by the color of one's skin instead of looking for the criminals who were witnessed committing the crime regardless of the color of their skin.

[elalumno]

So if a black man with black hair praising Allah is witnessed by many people committing a crime,

Ah yes, our "christian" speaks....

Then our "christian" wonders why there is such a backlash against "christians".

[elalumno]

Oh, and I forgot, carico, you are posting an outright lie.

Critics argue that race should:

• never be considered for any reason in a police action (save the exceptions made below).
• never be considered the primary or motivating factor for suspicion.
• only be considered when it is used to describe a specific suspect in a specific crime and only when used in a manner like other physical descriptions (e.g., hair color, weight, distinguishing marks). This is often referred to as the "be on the lookout" (B.O.L.O.) exception.
• even if race could be helpful, use of race may cause many more errors where the actual offender happened not to fit the race predicted by the model and law enforcement fails to capture the suspect.

[Carico]

Originally Posted by elalumno

Ah yes, our "christian" speaks....

Then our "christian" wonders why there is such a backlash against "christians".

Not just Christian, reason speaks. It is not reasonable to look for a suspect who does not fit the description by witnesses. But since our leaders and most of our country are insane as I pointed out in another thread, then I expect them to be this irrational or not even know what being rational is! Their irrationality isn't even subtle!

[Carico]

Originally Posted by elalumno

Oh, and I forgot, carico, you are posting an outright lie.

Sorry but this whole thing came up when Muslims were offended that the police were targeting their "race" while investigating 911.

[Neko]

Originally Posted by Carico

Racial profiling is one of the most backwards, irrational and racist practices in which one can indulge. According to the reasoning of racial profilists, we can't get a description of a suspect because it might offend those who look like the suspect.

Well that's only two sentences. Let's see how many logical errors we can find shall we?

1. "Racial profiling is one of the most backwards, irrational and racist practices in which one can indulge." Ah, so that'd be why you're so strongly in favour of it?

2. "Racial profilists"? WTF? Seriously, "profilist". Am I the only one seeing this?

3. Assuming that a "racial profilist" is someone who's in favour of racial profiling, then their reasoning is the precise opposite of what you said.

4. Hasn't the Palin disaster proved sufficiently to us all that you shouldn't repeat talking points that you don't actually understand? I mean, you might want to find out what racial profiling is before you start spouting off about it in public. Otherwise you might confuse it for its opposite, and that'd be dead embarrassing.

[elalumno]

Not just Christian, reason speaks.

And neither apply to your posts.

It is not reasonable to look for a suspect who does not fit the description by witnesses.

There is that lie again.

But since our leaders and most of our country are insane as I pointed out in another thread, then I expect them to be this irrational or not even know what being rational is! Their irrationality isn't even subtle!

You are projecting. The only irrationality here is your own and it is expressed in an extremist and racist message.

But you knew that.

[elalumno]

Sorry but this whole thing came up when Muslims were offended that the police were targeting their "race" while investigating 911.

Again, you post an intentional lie.

[Zan de Man]

Is Islam a race now? That's a new departure.

[Carico]

Originally Posted by Zan de Man

Is Islam a race now? That's a new departure.

They're human beings. But they were the ones who called attention to themselves as a race and that's what everyone does who focuses on the color of one's skin when describing a suspect.

[elalumno]

But they were the ones who called attention to themselves as a race

Well if the christian race wasn't so fucked up who'd care.

and that's what everyone does who focuses on the color of one's skin when describing a suspect.

You posted a lie about that in your opening post and you continue to post such a lie. Isn't there something about not that in your ten commandments?

[gurutoo]

Even Homocide detectives (not the relatively dull uniformed variety) will tell you, if it looks like a duck...it almost always is.

[Neko]

Originally Posted by gurutoo

Even Homocide detectives (not the relatively dull uniformed variety) will tell you, if it looks like a duck...it almost always is.

You can tell a terrorist just by looking at him?

[gurutoo]

Originally Posted by Neko

You can tell a terrorist just by looking at him?

Are you suggesting that individuals who fit specific parameters based on previous attack data not be looked at with a skosh more scrutiny?

[Zan de Man]

Originally Posted by Carico

They're human beings. But they were the ones who called attention to themselves as a race...

Not that I've heard. There are Arab Muslims, Chinese Muslims, African Muslims and Caucasian Muslims. I think you're improvising to cover up your initial logical dissonance. It isn't Jazz when your fingers fall off the end of the keyboard.

[Neko]

No. Are you suggesting that you can tell a terrorist by looking at him?

[Zan de Man]

Originally Posted by gurutoo

Are you suggesting that individuals who fit specific parameters based on previous attack data not be looked at with a skosh more scrutiny?

Take it from me Guru, successful terrorists don't repeat themselves.

[Carico]

Originally Posted by Neko

No. Are you suggesting that you can tell a terrorist by looking at him?

No. That's why we deed a description of a terrorist then target those who fit that description. But if racial profilists have their way, then no one can target anyone who fits the description of any of the terrorists.

[Zan de Man]

I understand why you're laughing. I think it's very self-deprecating of you. Well done sir.

[Neko]

Originally Posted by Carico

No. That's why we deed a description of a terrorist then target those who fit that description. But if racial profilists have their way, then no one can target anyone who fits the description of any of the terrorists.

I've already proved you know nothing about this subject. Go away now.