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Old 18th November 2008, 06:50 AM
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Thumbs up PJB: As GM Goes, So Goes the GOP

http://buchanan.org/blog/2008/11/pjb...-goes-the-gop/

Understandably, Republicans are seething.

When Hank Paulson demanded $700 billion to haul away the trash in the dumpsters of JPMorgan Chase and Goldman Sachs — assuring us we could hold a garage sale of the junk — they rebelled. They acted as the nation, by 100 to one, demanded. They killed the Wall Street bailout.

The Dow quickly sank another 1,000 points, and, charged with criminal irresponsibility by the elites, the GOP buckled, reversed itself, rescued the bailout — and was wiped out on Nov. 4.

Now we hear from Paulson that the $700 billion Congress voted will not, after all, be used to buy up all that rotten paper on the books of the big banks. Some banks are using the cash to buy other banks.

So Republicans are right to be enraged. They are victims of the biggest bait-and-switch in political history. But they are now about to do something terminally stupid. With GM, Ford and Chrysler teetering on the brink, they are turning a cold stone face to Detroit and are about to follow the counsel of that quintessential Bushite Dick Darman, who said of our computer chip industry, “If our guys can’t hack it, let ‘em go.”

America responded — by letting George H.W. Bush and Darman go.

Are Republicans aware of what they are about to do?

When workers, execs, engineers, dealers, salesmen and suppliers are all factored in, the Big Three employ 3 million people who contribute $21 billion a year to Social Security and Medicare, and $25 billion in federal income taxes. Add in all the businesses that depend on the auto industry, and we are talking about one-tenth of the U.S. labor force.

As columnist Tom Piatak of Chronicles and Takimag.com writes, 850,000 retirees, and their families, depend for pensions and health care on the Big Three. If they go under, the burden falls on us.

And to let the auto industry die is to write America out of much of the economic future of the planet.

In a good year, like 2005, Americans buy more than 17 million new cars, and West Europeans as many. Tens of millions in Eastern Europe, Russia, China, India and Southeast Asia are now moving into the middle class each year. These folks will all need or want one or two family cars. If we let the U.S. auto industry die, that immense and burgeoning market will be lost forever to America, and ceded to Asia.

“Who cares?” comes the free-traders’ reply. Japanese and Koreans are setting up factories here. They can pick up the slack.

But that means Americans will work for and depend on foreign companies for a necessity of our national life as vital as the imported oil and gas on which our cars and trucks operate. All the profits of the mighty automobile industry in America will be sent abroad.

Before Republicans follow this free-trade fanaticism to their final interment, they might study the results of a poll by Peter Hart:

– Seventy-eight percent of Americans believe the U.S. auto industry is highly or extremely important. Three percent think we can do without it.

– Ninety percent of Americans believe the death of the U.S. auto industry would do great damage to our economic future.

– By 55 percent to 30 percent, Americans favor federal loans to save it. And by 64 percent to 25 percent Americans back President-elect Obama’s resolve not to let the U.S. auto industry go under.

If the GOP blocks these loans, and the industry dies, the party can forget about Ohio, Michigan and the industrial Midwest. For the Reagan Democrats will never come home again. Nor should they.

By the choices we make, we define ourselves and reveal what we truly care about. Thus, consider:

We bail out the New York and D.C. governments of Abe Beame and Marion Barry. We bail out a corrupt Mexico. We bail out public schools that have failed us for 40 years.

We bail out with International Monetary Fund and World Bank loans and foreign aid worthless Third World regimes.

We bail out Wall Street plutocrats and big banks.

But the most magnificent industry, the auto industry that was the pride of America and envy of the world, we surrender to predator-traders from Asia and Europe, lest we violate the tenets of some 19th-century ideological scribblers that the old Republicans considered the apogee of British stupidity.

Nancy Pelosi is talking about tying loans to a restructuring of the industry. But Congress is not competent to do that.

What needs to be restructured is the U.S. tax-and-trade regime.

Dump globalism. Instruct Japan, Canada, Korea, Germany and China that if they wish to sell cars here, they will assemble them here and produce the parts here. And we shall have the same free access to and same share of their auto market as they have of ours.

To accomplish this, use the same import quotas and tariffs Ronald Reagan used to save the steel industry and Harley-Davidson.

Reciprocal trade. Even Democrats like FDR used to practice it.
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Protectionism. It worked so well in the 30s...

Reciprocal trade. What does he think the WTO is for? Why does he think the Doha round was killed? Does he really believe that the US has not made used of its size and power to cut itself plenty of sweet deals on the international scene? Please. Practice what you preach, hypocrites...

(Qualifier: The EU is not much better).
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And further qualifier: It doesn't mean the US automobile industry should not be saved this time around.
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I'd take protectionism's overall record vs. free trade's in a heartbeat. One bad, kneejerk application of policy doesn't mean that protectionism is somehow a failed policy.

However, free trade has been shown over and over again to bring down the economies of great nations.

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Reciprocal trade. What does he think the WTO is for? Why does he think the Doha round was killed? Does he really believe that the US has not made used of its size and power to cut itself plenty of sweet deals on the international scene? Please. Practice what you preach, hypocrites...
Gilles...the United States currently has trade deficits with I believe all but ONE of its trading partners. This isn't normal, its engineered. Free trade neoconservatives here in the United States have turned a blind eye to reality, and have worked over the past ten to fifteen years to tear down trade barriers on our side, while our trading partners have continued to practice protectionism.
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I'd take protectionism's overall record vs. free trade's in a heartbeat. One bad, kneejerk application of policy doesn't mean that protectionism is somehow a failed policy.
Actually, it was the same during the 18th and 19th century... It is a failed policy. Bar a very few cases (infant industries). But more on that below.

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However, free trade has been shown over and over again to bring down the economies of great nations.
You are going to have to demonstrate that rather than simply affirming it.

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Gilles...the United States currently has trade deficits with I believe all but ONE of its trading partners. This isn't normal, its engineered.
Not, it's not engineered but you're right to say it's not normal. It's a recipe for dangerous imbalances. The truth is that the US need to sell more of his stuff abroad or to consume less of foreign stuff. It was lazy in going through those adjustments because, thanks to foreign demand for the $, it didn't have to. Arguably, foreigners did not push the point either. The Chinese (as the Japanese before them) were happy to lend the Americans the money they would use to buy Chinese/Japanese stuff.

Thus, the relationship is symbiotic but fundamentally imbalanced. While the US has actually fair access to most its competitors and trade partners, i think there are one, maybe two cases that should be looked into more deeply. China. And maybe Mexico.

Poor countries aren't such an issue in general. Yes, their workers are cheaper than US ones but they are also less productive. Thus, they aren't such an attraction for investors (or at least not for every investment). Where it can go wrong is when workers are both productive AND cheap. That's, imho, China's case. Their workers' prices are kept artificially low and thus they siphon too much of the world's industrial production. This leads to unhealthy symbiosis (see above).

Mexico may be a special problem due to NAFTA. In general, full fledged integration is best left to countries roughly comparable (the EU has strict economic criteria for that purpose). But NAFTA isn't full fledged integration either so I am not sure about this.

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Poor, defenseless America. That simply isn't true, Justin. Now, the EU is bad as well so I am not climbing on any moralising bench but America unfairly defended its agriculture, steel industry, textile industry and probably countless others while forcing quite a few countries to open up (esp. to capital flows and finance), regardless of whether they were ready to compete with the US... This has had some pretty nasty consequences...
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