And so it begins...South Carolina General Assembly 117th Session, 2007-2008

[elalumno]

Okay, and you're telling me then that you can freely and legally purchase, off the shelf, without out any supplimental licensing, in every state, silencers, sawed offs and machine guns.

Nope, and that is a complete and total lie, I never said such a thing, never implied such a thing. You made that up, intentionally, to distort the discussion.

[clownboy]

Originally Posted by elalumno

Nope, and that is a complete and total lie, I never said such a thing, never implied such a thing. You made that up, intentionally, to distort the discussion.

Here's the quote:

Originally Posted by elalumno

In the US, in most states, machineguns are legal, as are silencers, sawed off shotguns, etc. And they do not present themselves as a problem.

What I'm trying to get across to you is that those weapons aren't legally available without special licensing/permission and special checks and/or extra fees. Heck, in some localities you even have to get the signed permission of the police chief to own these. You have to jump through several hoops to make them legal to own. Those extra hoops are why they don't present themselves as a problem.

Now, if you want to equate these weapons with ordinary handguns and sporting rifles, fine, but that doesn't make it so. The process for the purchase of a legal handgun or sporting rifle is nowhere near as restricted.

[elalumno]

Here's the quote:

Indeed, and it comes nowhere close to being what you claim it is.

What I'm trying to get across to you is that those weapons aren't legally available without special licensing/permission and special checks and/or extra fees.

What you are trying to get across was a lie and an intentional distortion of what I said.

Heck, in some localities you even have to get the signed permission of the police chief to own these. You have to jump through several hoops to make them legal to own. Those extra hoops are why they don't present themselves as a problem.

Not under discussion or dispute.

Now, if you want to equate these weapons with ordinary handguns and sporting rifles, fine, but that doesn't make it so. The process for the purchase of a legal handgun or sporting rifle is nowhere near as restricted.

Again, you argue against a lie you posted and not what was actually said.

I have to give you credit though, you have posted one of the longest streams of totally dishonest and intentionaly disingenous posts I have seen in quite a while.

[clownboy]

Originally Posted by elalumno

I have to give you credit though, you have posted one of the longest streams of totally dishonest and intentionaly disingenous posts I have seen in quite a while.

Then you haven't been reading your own posts.

I've not been trying to distort what you post - just responding to your points of info that I feel are exaggerated or plain false. I've provided links to show every point I've made - you? You've responded by calling me dishonest.

That's it for me on this thread, I've reached the point where it's just casting pearls before swine. When we ALL lose our gun rights, it won't be because of the anti-gun minority, it'll be because of folks like you.

[elalumno]

I've not been trying to distort what you post - just responding to your points of info that I feel are exaggerated or plain false. I've provided links to show every point I've made - you? You've responded by calling me dishonest.

And indeed your post have been nothing but dishonest. Lets look.

I said:

I don't really see it. Criminals get what they want, so bans, limts, etc. are failures. In the US, in most states, machineguns are legal, as are silencers, sawed off shotguns, etc. And they do not present themselves as a problem. Additionally, most of the "assault weapons" are less powerful than most "sporting" weapons. The issue isn't posession as much as it is misuse.

You claimed what I said was this:

Okay, and you're telling me then that you can freely and legally purchase, off the shelf, without out any supplimental licensing, in every state, silencers, sawed offs and machine guns.

Your claim of what I said has no basis in anything truthful and as seen by what I ACTUALLY said, is demonstrated to be an intentional lie. And that has been the tennor of your posts.

That's it for me on this thread, I've reached the point where it's just casting pearls before swine.

Typical, caught in posting intentional lies your run away.

When we ALL lose our gun rights, it won't be because of the anti-gun minority, it'll be because of folks like you.

Yeah and I bet you blame women for being raped too.

[sinterest]

Originally Posted by Dufrel

So are you ok with the government putting tracking devices in every car so they can monitor where you go?

Better to put them on guns, but no - I am not afraid of my government as it is only a reflection of what the public has created.