Could Trig Palin Actually be Sarah Palin's Grandson???

[Justin]

BabyGate: Explosive New Details [Photos+Video]

by ArcXIX

Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 04:39:54 PM PDT

Yesterday, the nation at large was introduced to Sarah Palin's fraudulent claims of maternity by numerous photographs, video, and a timeline that made even those accepting of the 'official' story turn their heads in confusion.

The revelation that had been whispered among the Alaskan legislature was explosive. Sarah Palin is not the mother of Trig Palin. Her daughter is the mother. Scarce if any refutations to the contrary have come forward, and now damning incidents and evidence has come to light.

Mothers of the world have reeled back in disgust and horror at Sarah's dangerous and possibly fatal story of flying 4000 miles even as she was supposedly in the process of entering labor a month early. Sarah needs to honestly answer for her lies, promptly.

As evidenced in the original diary, Sarah has been photographed during her surprise 'pregnancy' as trim, fit, and altogether non-pregnant. Once again presenting Sarah at seven months 'pregnant':



And now newly juxtaposed to Sarah pregnant with her son, Track Palin, in 1989 (right):


The disparity is shocking. Any mother of more than one child will tell you that a female body does not become fitter with each pregnancy, but instead the exact opposite, gaining more and more weight quickly with each successive pregnancy (in Sarah's case, four). Sarah is a perfectly healthy woman, but is far from a petite size, and would not be able to hide a second trimester pregnancy from anyone with a set of eyeballs.

bloggerinterrupted has culled together news videos from the time of the original announcement (seven months into the surprise 'pregnancy'), which reveals no protruding belly line, and the total shock of fellow Alaskans:

Of note, the Newsweek conference at the end was entitled "Newsweek: Women & Leadership". Sarah would issue the statement on her pregnancy the next day (she didn't mention pregnancy once during the presentation), and Newsweek host Karen Breslau was as surprised as anyone:

At the time, I didn't know that Palin, clad in a loose, dark dress, was seven months pregnant with her fifth child. An aide called me the next day to tell me that Palin would be announcing the pregnancy at home in Alaska and that she had wanted me to know as a courtesy. She was sorry she hadn't mentioned it the night before.

A convenient reasoning, allowing Sarah to deftly avoid questioning of any sort before, during, or after the presentation in Los Angeles. This isn't the first time Sarah has fooled someone on video.

In yesterday's diary, a video of Sarah hiking around Juneau, Alaska (and standing in high heels at six months 'pregnant') was presented by Alaska HDTV. They have since issued a statement:

Regarding her pregnancy, all I can say is that it was not obvious to the three of us who were there during the filming. At this time she would be somewhere in her 7th month of pregnancy, which could be hidden with clever clothing, jackets, etc.

In addition, these videos also mark stark contrasts toanother video of Sarah's career as a Sports News Journalist, taped here when she was pregnant with child in 1989. Her facial features are altered, a common effect of pregnancy that Sarah miraculously avoided during her fifth with Trig.
Fast forward to the alleged 'pregnancy' itself, an obstetrician commented at Talking Points Memo that he has serious issues with Palin's decisions:

She claims she flew from Texas to Anchorage after she was having contractions and leaking amniotic fluid. This simply doesn't make sense.
I am a physician and I deliver babies (my last delivery was about 36 hours ago).
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There is very little chance that a 44 year old woman who was pregnant with her fifth child would last 8 hours with ruptured membranes and contractions. Especially when the baby was approximately 4 weeks early; She would have delivered this baby on the plane.
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Playing the back seat doctor here, my advice would have been get in the car and go to the nearest hospital with a maternity ward. This is called Premature Preterm Rupture of Membranes (PPROM) and it is dangerous.
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10:30pm - Palin arrives in Anchorage (approximately 22 hours after membranes ruptured, you start to get worried at 12 hours).
11:30pm - Palin checks into Mat-Su regional in Wasilla, Alaska. (It seems kind of strange that she wouldn't have gone to Providence in Anchorage which has the highest level maternity care in the state. You would want a child with genetic defects to be delivered in a bigger place with more services available.)
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If she knew her child had this disorder and got on a plane with leaking amniotic fluid, then she shows incredibly poor judgment.

Mentioned below the statement, is the revelation that after landing in Anchorage, Sarah drove past both Providence and Anchorage Regional, facilities ideal for premature deliveries, as both are equipped with neonatal intensive care units (NCIU). The doctor who supposedly approved of Sarah taking such risks, and later delivered Trig? Cathy Baldwin-Johnson, who has since been scrubbed from the Mt-Su Regional Medical Center website. Web Archive naturally shows her at the top of the scrubbed list. Sarah's relationship with Cathy has formed over the years, and in 2002 (then Mayor) Sarah named her Family Physician of the Year. In May 2007, (then Governor) Sarah appointed Cathy to the Alaska Health Care Strategies Planning Council, as evidenced by this scrubbed State Press Release. Special connections for special friends.

Mat-Su Regional, the hospital where Trig Palin was delivered, surprisingly does not list Trig on their own list of babies born in that facility for that day of April 18th. A peculiar oddity, as hospitals are usually proud when a local celebrity gives birth within their facility.

Which brings us back to Bristol Palin, the rightful mother of Trig Palin. Over the course of seven months, Bristol had three separate driving offenses, one to carry insurance, one for speeding, and another one for a collision. As a sixteen year-old driver, incidents such as these happen all the time. This is noteworthy, however, due to her being out of school at the time due to the family excuse of 'having infectious mononucleosis' for a period of five to eight months. The police statement reads:

Wasilla Police Department
On February 8, 2008, at 1737 hours, Wasilla Police responded to two vehicle collision at Seward Meridian Parkway and Fireweed Drive. Investigation revealed that Bristol Palin, age 17 of Wasilla, was driving a 4-door sedan and attempted to turn into a business when she struck a 2-door sedan driven by Joshua Moffet, age 19, of Wasilla. Palin was issued a citation for Failing to Use Due Care to Avoid a Collision. Moffet was issued a citation for an expired registration and no proof of insurance.

Out of school, and in a fender-bender located in front a Medical Family Center. Not good.

Back to contrasts, we see here Bristol at Sarah's Governor inauguration:



As flat of a stomach as any. And now later during Bristol's pregnancy:



Bristol & Trig have been pushed backstage or elsewhere in McCain/Palin appearances already, as evidenced by the Washington, PA campaign stop in which Sarah stated Trig was napping while Bristol was watching over him. In any regard, they looked wonderful together at the initial Vice-Presidential unveiling in Dayton, Ohio on Friday:







Sarah? Not so interested.


Tearing apart a mother from her child in the public's eye for political points is the lowest of the low. Bristol Palin deserves the truth from Sarah, delivered to the public, immediately. This charade on the national stage is pathetic, and needs to end promptly.

[clownboy]

Will this hit the MSM

1) never?
2) tomorrow, during the convention?
3) after the hurricane and the convention?

and if it hits the MSM will they

1) deny it and bury it?
2) look into it and report fairly what they find?

What do you think?

Btw, that link is getting hit really hard.

[Justin]

If it's true, how devastating will it be for the McCain campaign? What kind of form will the "attacks" come in? Will they ask how a presidential candidate with a team specifically designated to vett candidates could miss something this huge?

If Palin doesn't step down as VP candidate or isn't kicked off the ticket by McCain, how will he explain standing by somebody who was involved in such a massive cover-up?

This could be huge.

[ninjalooter1701]

Originally Posted by Justin

If it's true, how devastating will it be for the McCain campaign? What kind of form will the "attacks" come in? Will they ask how a presidential candidate with a team specifically designated to vett candidates could miss something this huge?

If Palin doesn't step down as VP candidate or isn't kicked off the ticket by McCain, how will he explain standing by somebody who was involved in such a massive cover-up?

This could be huge.

I'd personally rather they get worked up about, oh, say, "We have learned recently that Saddam Hussein has tried to import significant quantities of enriched uranium," but that's just me...

What's the big deal about this, really?

[clownboy]

Are you just playing with us ninja? Oh well, I'll bite. IF true, she's been using an extreme version of "republican family values" to fuel her popularity, this would be her Larry Craig moment. Those evangelicals, like Dobson, who have now publically endorsed her will be made fools, again very publically.

Not to mention what it's gonna say about McCain's judgement (already a campaign question) and his staff's fitness visa vis vetting people.

[ninjalooter1701]

Originally Posted by clownboy

Are you just playing with us ninja? Oh well, I'll bite.

No, but maybe I missed something...

Ok, she's gotten criticism that she's abandoning her newborn. But if she was pretending it was hers, possibly to shield her daughter from criticism for having a daughter, and now that is "hitting the fan" because she "lied," then I have to ask, I might have missed the detail, was the daughter unmarried? I might have missed it.

Now if she's "abandoning the newborn" because it's her daughter's, not hers, that sheds more light on the issue.

What did I miss? In all sincerity.

[Justin]

I want to say that I'm certainly not ready to say that I believe the article above. Its written by a very left-leaning blog. Still...the evidence seems to be piling up. If it turns out that it is true that Trig is her daughter's son and not her own, then:

1: She lied very elaborately and almost certainly used her power as governor to help cover it up.

2: It reflects very poorly on McCain and his judgement. If he could miss this and make such a poor pick, arguably one of his most important, should we really trust him with the reigns of the nation?

3: This will only further the perception of the GOP as "liars and crooks"...the Larry Craigs and the Ted Stevens

[Bonniedundee]

I somehow doubt the truth of this story although I dearly enjoy attacks on McCain's campaign. I'm really torn.

[SCREAM]

Originally Posted by Justin

If it's true, how devastating will it be for the McCain campaign? What kind of form will the "attacks" come in? Will they ask how a presidential candidate with a team specifically designated to vett candidates could miss something this huge?

If Palin doesn't step down as VP candidate or isn't kicked off the ticket by McCain, how will he explain standing by somebody who was involved in such a massive cover-up?

This could be huge.

If it's true it won't matter how she handles it, because the result will be the same.

A slam dunk for Obama.


Though looking at those pictures I have to wonder if they were really stupid enough to let their daughter pose in a tight fitting sweater while she was showing if they wanted it to be a secret, or if the kid just need to work out a bit.

[Neko]

Originally Posted by Justin

BabyGate: Explosive New Details [Photos+Video]

by ArcXIX

We'll there's a nice unbiased article.

We can't condemn people like BT and Coolman, and then C&P the same stuff ourselves.

[clownboy]

Originally Posted by ninjalooter1701

Ok, she's gotten criticism that she's But if she was pretending it was hers, possibly to shield her daughter from criticism for having a daughter, and now that is "hitting the fan" because she "lied," then I have to ask, I might have missed the detail, was the daughter unmarried? I might have missed it.

Daughter is unmarried and living at home. She was 16 when "her mother's" pregnancy began. She's still in high school, Sarah believes in abstinece only education.

[clownboy]

Originally Posted by Neko

We'll there's a nice unbiased article.

We can't condemn people like BT and Coolman, and then C&P the same stuff ourselves.

Normally I'd agree, this being the dailyKos and all. But if you follow the updates, they are bowing to new evidence as it's uncovered. right now there are photos of dubious timestamp being offerred to show she was pregnant after all. They are doing the honest thing and taking the photos at face value until they can be verified, or more compelling evidence is presented.

Read the updates.

[Neko]

Originally Posted by Justin

Explosive New Details... the 'official' story... The revelation that had been whispered... reeled back in disgust and horror... answer for her lies...
disparity is shocking... Tearing apart a mother from her child... the lowest of the low... This charade on the national stage...

That sounds like just the sort of thing an honest reporter would produce (and while I'm at it, his grammar blows).

Can anyone imagine the reaction there'd be on here if they were saying all this about Michelle Obama, on the same shaky evidence? Whoever posted the article would get attacked just like BT and Coolman for posting dubious internet rumours as fact.

Still, I suppose that by reminding everyone why we started the US forum in the first place, this does help my cause in the "should there be a UK forum" debate.

[clownboy]

It's my fault. I was hearing talk of the controversy from the Alaskan papers and put it forward here. The thing is, true or not, the details damn her. Even if NOT true:

[SCREAM]

Originally Posted by Neko

Can anyone imagine the reaction there'd be on here if they were saying all this about Michelle Obama, on the same shaky evidence? Whoever posted the article would get attacked just like BT and Coolman for posting dubious internet rumours as fact.

Very ture.

Again, if this is true, it's over for McCain, but if it's not true then the people who tried to fan the flames of this rumor will be fodder for laughter.

[SCREAM]

Originally Posted by clownboy

It's my fault. I was hearing talk of the controversy from the Alaskan papers and put it forward here. The thing is, true or not, the details damn her. Even if NOT true:

Question here about this concerning motive... Why would she fake all of this? Why fake the leaking of the amniotic fluid???

How does this help her cover up her daughter's pregnancy? It just seems so over the top.

[clownboy]

Originally Posted by SCREAM

Question here about this concerning motive... Why would she fake all of this? Why fake the leaking of the amniotic fluid???

How does this help her cover up her daughter's pregnancy? It just seems so over the top.

The leaking fluid was self-reported, no one witnessed the leakage. Wasn't like she was walking around dripping fluid. She told folks about it at the speech, and then gave the speech.

But, like I said, it's just as damning if it's hers. She'd have been calling for the head of any pregnant women who threatened the unborn with such behavior in her own state.

[Neko]

I admit, it's looking more likely now, but it's all still one hell of a dubious rumour. And (here's the important part) pretty much everyone here automatically assumed the whole thing was gospel from the word go, when the "evidence" was even less convincing than it is now.

Even if they turn out to be right, that won't do them any credit.

[SCREAM]

Originally Posted by clownboy

The leaking fluid was self-reported, no one witnessed the leakage. Wasn't like she was walking around dripping fluid. She told folks about it at the speech, and then gave the speech.

But, like I said, it's just as damning if it's hers. She'd have been calling for the head of any pregnant women who threatened the unborn with such behavior in her own state.

Right, but this is my confusion. How would it make sense for her to announce this emergency if she's trying to cover up her daughter's pregnancy? I would think quietly going to a hospital and making an announcment would make more sense.

If she did lie, then she's really bad at all of this.

[Gilles de Rais]

Originally Posted by SCREAM

How does this help her cover up her daughter's pregnancy? It just seems so over the top.

Fully agreed and, like everyone, i am very suspicious of that story... BUT there is no telling how religious nutters think. She might have wanted to avoid the opprobium (sp?) that would befall her family (and, possibly, career as well as her daughter's life) if it became apparent that her 16 yo daughter got pregnant so young and outside of marriage.

I mean, for a guy like me, that's the beauty of it, IF TRUE. Despite all her church-going and family values bullshit and abstinence-only education, she can't control her daughter and, in the funniest of funniest, that daughter, normally from a priviledged background and unlikely to get pregnant, does get pregnant. Now, she can't get her daughter to get an abortion. That would kill her career and 'sanctity of life' BS. In a further twist, the kid had Dow's syndrome but she still can't do anything about it coz of her political line. Then, the question becomes what to do with this. I guess the other classic option would have been to marry the daughter to anyone willing (even paid for) in emergency. They went for the other classic option of the grandmother stepping in as the mother.

As i said, we read about such practices in books about the 19th century and before, when people were stupid, ignorant and totally crass. To have that in the 21st century is regression, a beautiful regression that you guys deserve for believing in all the 'moral' bullshit you pretend to believe in. I mean, i think lying is anti-christian/family value/moral majority as well...

I so hope it's true.