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Old 4th July 2009, 12:16 AM
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Default Chronology of American State Terrorism

1607 – 1890
American Genocide of the Native Peoples of America and Africa


1899 – 1902
American Genocide of the Philippine People


1800s – 1930s
American Terrorism and Tyranny Around the World


2003
American/British Invasion and State Terrorism of the Iraqi People

Estimated civilian deaths: tens of thousands of people

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In March 2003 the literally satanic U.S. military/government launched a murderous invasion of Iraq. Disregarding America’s widely scorned state propaganda, there are three true reasons for the invasion and occupation: 1) taking control of Iraq’s oil; 2) forcing Iraq to return to using the dollar instead of the euro for oil payments; 3) eliminating the largest, independent Arab power on behalf of the terrorist, racist State of Israel.

Along with its British puppets, the American military destroyed the hopelessly outgunned Iraqi military, once again slaughtering thousands of Iraqi civilian men, women and children in the process. The racist invaders now occupy the country and are continuing the mass murder and terrorization of its people.

See report and photos:
Satanic American/British Babykillers: State Terrorism of the Iraqi People

Do not forget about Israel. Israel as a terrorist state

And we wonder why 9/11 happened! Go figure!
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I would respond by asking you to provide a chronology of offenses committed by all the nations of all the world throughout all of history, but I have an Arab in the basement I am waterboarding, a black man out back shining my boots, and a native American in my parlor drinking all my whiskey - it is time consuming being the bane of humanity.

Hopefully we can talk later.

Happy Fourth of July!
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I would respond by asking you to provide a chronology of offenses committed by all the nations of all the world throughout all of history, but I have an Arab in the basement I am waterboarding, a black man out back shining my boots, and a native American in my parlor drinking all my whiskey - it is time consuming being the bane of humanity.

Hopefully we can talk later.

Happy Fourth of July!
I agree no nation is immune but a little sprinkly of verifiable history never hurt anybody. I just thought we could take a little looksy at the whys of Jihad towards the US and Israel.
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I agree no nation is immune but a little sprinkly of verifiable history never hurt anybody. I just thought we could take a little looksy at the whys of Jihad towards the US and Israel.
No worries - you scared me for a minute - I thought you were going all "007" on us.
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In March 2003 the literally satanic U.S. military/government...
I don't mind polemic, but I draw the line at witless polemic.
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I agree with you somewhat. I believe that statement is a generalization but I can certainly understand why it was made based on some very prickly facts. It hurts to know those things.
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I would respond by asking you to provide a chronology of offenses committed by all the nations of all the world throughout all of history, but I have an Arab in the basement I am waterboarding, a black man out back shining my boots, and a native American in my parlor drinking all my whiskey - it is time consuming being the bane of humanity.

Whenever I do something I'm not particularly proud of I go on the net and search till I find a story about someone who did something worse.

Then I feel a lot better.
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Cute list. I would throw out much of the wartime stuff however. War by its very nature is terrifying.

The treatment of Aboriginal Americans is enough for me to say the white man should pack up and go back where they came from... wonder if I can get a pass based on my 1/16 Cherokee blood? Other wise I have always considered Ireland as a top 2 choice for relocation.
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Whomever wrote all that needs a heaping helping of historical context.

And where is the condemnation of the Dutch who ran the slave trade and sold the opium for longer than America had been a nation? Or the various native american tribes that conquered and slaughtered one another to form the Indian nations? Or the Africans that almost single-handedly fueled the slave trade, selling their own into slavery?

What, no vilification of the Japanese for the Rape of Nanking? Or the Spanish for what they did in the Phillipines? Or the Germans for centuries of barbarity culminating in Hitler's insane walkabout? America came late to the atrocity table, we had, and have, some very good teachers in that regard.
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Whomever wrote all that needs a heaping helping of historical context.

And where is the condemnation of the Dutch who ran the slave trade and sold the opium for longer than America had been a nation? Or the various native american tribes that conquered and slaughtered one another to form the Indian nations? Or the Africans that almost single-handedly fueled the slave trade, selling their own into slavery?

What, no vilification of the Japanese for the Rape of Nanking? Or the Spanish for what they did in the Phillipines? Or the Germans for centuries of barbarity culminating in Hitler's insane walkabout? America came late to the atrocity table, we had, and have, some very good teachers in that regard.
I had understood the whole point not to be a vilification of America, but rather a statement that we don't have any right to claim any moral high ground.
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I had understood the whole point not to be a vilification of America, but rather a statement that we don't have any right to claim any moral high ground.
Thank you for the clarification. That is exactly why I posted it.
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Allrighty gang - I am about to go celebrate the 4th - I'll leave you with one of my favorites from Theodore Roosevelt, our 26th President. DO try to cheer up and enjoy yourselves.

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.”
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I had understood the whole point not to be a vilification of America, but rather a statement that we don't have any right to claim any moral high ground.
Thats how I saw it as well. However the last statement "And we wonder why 9/11 happened! Go figure! " did cloud the objectivity a tad.

In the end game the scribes will look back and it won't be XYZ was a barbaric nation but rather humankind was a barbaric species.
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Allrighty gang - I am about to go celebrate the 4th - I'll leave you with one of my favorites from Theodore Roosevelt, our 26th President. DO try to cheer up and enjoy yourselves.

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.”
It must be getting late for you, it is still early for me. Thanks for the post. I enjoyed it!
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Again why I made the comment about the lack of historical context. If we are evaluating who holds the moral high ground (if such a thing exists in the first place), we've got to look at the world Milieu those events occurred in.
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Again why I made the comment about the lack of historical context. If we are evaluating who holds the moral high ground (if such a thing exists in the first place), we've got to look at the world Milieu those events occurred in.
Sounds like moral relativism.
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