I remember when

[biblethumper]

it was wrong to call people Un-American if they disagreed. more hypocrisy from the left.

Hot Air » Blog Archive » Hoyer, Pelosi call protests against ObamaCare “un-American”

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by biblethumper

it was wrong to call people Un-American if they disagreed. more hypocrisy from the left.

Hot Air » Blog Archive » Hoyer, Pelosi call protests against ObamaCare “un-American”

Biblethumper, you lying liar, back in the 50's, radical lefties weren't called un-American because they disagreed, they were called un-American becuase they were alleged (occasionally correctly) to be working with the International Communist Conspiracy. Now what Hoyer and Pelosi are calling un-American is actions to "disrupt public meetings and prevent members of Congress and constituents from conducting a civil dialogue." They say "Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American." (emphasis added)

Do you think 'drowning out' and 'disagreeing' are the same thing? I think you're being a lying liar again by claiming people were being called 'un-American' simply because they disagreed.

Denying others the ability to participate in the debate IS un-American in my view, whether such tactics are used by socialists (and I know of numerous such occasions), or, now, by the right.

[biblethumper]

Who is the lying liar, you don't have to go back to the 50's, conservative speakers are drowned out, is it that you call it? all the time on college campuses where they are invited to speak. Ever seen Chris Matthews, he drowns out conservatives all the time on his show asking questions and then talking over them when they try to answer.

[Grizz64]

Originally Posted by biblethumper

Who is the lying liar, you don't have to go back to the 50's, conservative speakers are drowned out, is it that you call it? all the time on college campuses where they are invited to speak. Ever seen Chris Matthews, he drowns out conservatives all the time on his show asking questions and then talking over them when they try to answer.

I gather then, in your view, two wrongs will make a right? Anyway, that has nothing to do with the issue at hand which was your mischaracterization of what Pelosi said as Don correctly pointed out. Political 'spin' is one thing, but deliberate distortions are quite another.

[biblethumper]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Biblethumper, you lying liar, back in the 50's, radical lefties weren't called un-American because they disagreed, they were called un-American becuase they were alleged (occasionally correctly) to be working with the International Communist Conspiracy. Now what Hoyer and Pelosi are calling un-American is actions to "disrupt public meetings and prevent members of Congress and constituents from conducting a civil dialogue." They say "Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American." (emphasis added)

Do you think 'drowning out' and 'disagreeing' are the same thing? I think you're being a lying liar again by claiming people were being called 'un-American' simply because they disagreed.

Denying others the ability to participate in the debate IS un-American in my view, whether such tactics are used by socialists (and I know of numerous such occasions), or, now, by the right.

Don, I don't think anybody should be shouted down, but it has become a stratedgy of the left first,
in this case the people are righlty indignant.

[biblethumper]

Originally Posted by Grizz64

I gather then, in your view, two wrongs will make a right? Anyway, that has nothing to do with the issue at hand which was your mischaracterization of what Pelosi said as Don correctly pointed out. Political 'spin' is one thing, but deliberate distortions are quite another.

Right like how she said people at the protests had swastika tattoos, that's what started the Nazi comparisons.

[Underhill]

Originally Posted by biblethumper

Don, I don't think anybody should be shouted down, but it has become a stratedgy of the left first,
in this case the people are righlty indignant.

I'm not about to get into a irrelevant semantic argument over who was the first to shout down someone they disagreed with, especially with a known liar. But I would bet everything I own, it goes back long before there were democrats and republicans.

[Grizz64]

Originally Posted by biblethumper

Right like how she said people at the protests had swastika tattoos, that's what started the Nazi comparisons.

I have no earthly idea what you're talking about, so I'll ignore it. I repeat, Pelosi's comment about being un-American was directed at those whose rude manners and loudness prevented any sort of dialogue at more than a few meetings and had NOTHING to do with reasoned opposition to Dem's healthcare legislation. Further, past mob actions by others do not justify those of today.

[biblethumper]

Originally Posted by Grizz64

I have no earthly idea what you're talking about, so I'll ignore it. I repeat, Pelosi's comment about being un-American was directed at those whose rude manners and loudness prevented any sort of dialogue at more than a few meetings and had NOTHING to do with reasoned opposition to Dem's healthcare legislation. Further, past mob actions by others do not justify those of today.

reasoned? no they weren't,people are tired of being talked down to, as if they are third graders by people who in many cases haven't even read the bill.

RealClearPolitics - Video - Pelosi: Town Hall Protesters Are "Carrying Swastikas"

[Underhill]

Originally Posted by biblethumper

reasoned? no they weren't,people are tired of being talked down to, as if they are third graders by people who in many cases haven't even read the bill.

RealClearPolitics - Video - Pelosi: Town Hall Protesters Are "Carrying Swastikas"

It takes sack for you to complain about people not reading any bill.

[ninjalooter1701]

Originally Posted by biblethumper

reasoned? no they weren't,people are tired of being talked down to, as if they are third graders by people who in many cases haven't even read the bill.

There is, in many cases, a reason why many people talk down to you like you're a third grader.

[sarmajor]

you lying liar

Don - calling a poster a liar is rather rude and may upset the susceptibilities of mods less broadminded than your humble correspondent.

But could you please amplify on the above quote?

If a liar is not lying is he/she still entitled to be designated as a liar.

And what about a poster who is lying but is not a liar?

Basically is a lying liar more reprehensible than just a plain liar or even a non liar who just happens to be lying?

Is there any middle ground on this?

[ninjalooter1701]

Originally Posted by sarmajor

Don - calling a poster a liar is rather rude and may upset the susceptibilities of mods less broadminded than your humble correspondent.

But could you please amplify on the above quote?

If a liar is not lying is he/she still entitled to be designated as a liar.

And what about a poster who is lying but is not a liar?

Basically is a lying liar more reprehensible than just a plain liar or even a non liar who just happens to be lying?

Is there any middle ground on this?

A drunk can still be sober.

[sarmajor]

Originally Posted by ninjalooter1701

A drunk can still be sober.

But can a drunken drunk also be sober

[CatWoman]

Originally Posted by sarmajor

Don - calling a poster a liar is rather rude and may upset the susceptibilities of mods less broadminded than your humble correspondent.

But could you please amplify on the above quote?

If a liar is not lying is he/she still entitled to be designated as a liar.

And what about a poster who is lying but is not a liar?

Basically is a lying liar more reprehensible than just a plain liar or even a non liar who just happens to be lying?

Is there any middle ground on this?

Well he could say he is misleading the forum by telling lies an example of this: Sarmajor is not a mysoginist

[djmotwister]

“I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you’re not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration.”

I'm sorry if im now out of your discussion. All i can say is that. Hillary Clinton said it well.

[sarmajor]

Sarmajor is not a mysoginist

Is that not what I have always maintained?

[CatWoman]

Originally Posted by sarmajor

Is that not what I have always maintained?

Originally Posted by sarmajor

My feelings entirely.

I could not give a stuff if he is black, white or brindle ............. jew, catholic or calathumpian.

Just as long as he is not a woman

I rest my case

[sarmajor]

Originally Posted by CatWoman

I rest my case

I think that the defence counsel for Adolph Eichmann said that too.

[CatWoman]

Originally Posted by sarmajor

I think that the defence counsel for Adolph Eichmann said that too.

thats good as I'm not defending you