Murder suspect disapproved of his victims

[Lucas]

...What would be your definition of wingnut?

I'm fairly confident you could easily be a 'wingnut of the week'.

[Dawildman]

The total membership of the "9/12" group for starters. Then the birthers. Alan keyes a prime example. That dumb Uncle Tom STILL doesn't get it yet...

Then anyone so weirded out that they think being a tea bagger is cool.

Regular listeners to Rush, Beck, Savage, and assorted Thorazine taking, pill popping unhinged, radio disk nuts.


I could go on but that' should ya a good start.

Need more?

I quote Palin: "I'll try get some next time Charlie and bring 'em to ya".

You betcha ya dumb bitch...

[Lucas]

That's a very good start, but yes, I need more. Like 'Truthers'. People that think most people that oppose Obama are racist. People that listen to Alex Jones. People who take Michael Moore movies seriously. Keith Olbermann. Noam Chomsky. Folks that think no conservative state has ever been successful. Etc.

Together, we can make a pretty good list DWM!

[Zan de Man]

Michael Moore is a polemicist, but he argues his case well. You may not like his style and you might be able to question some of his arguments but that's not enough to undermine his work. I'd like to hear your case that he shouldn't be taken seriously.

[Dawildman]

Originally Posted by Lucas

That's a very good start, but yes, I need more. Like 'Truthers'. People that think most people that oppose Obama are racist. People that listen to Alex Jones. People who take Michael Moore movies seriously. Keith Olbermann. Noam Chomsky. Folks that think no conservative state has ever been successful. Etc.

Together, we can make a pretty good list DWM!

But you haven't ever offered ANY example of a "successful" Conservative state. You may attack me all you want. Do it until it helps you feel more secure. But in the meantime provided no proof that your ideology works.

Not even one single example. Obfuscation and twisted blame does not address the invalidity of your beliefs.

Again for the umpteenth time:

Shown me even one.

Just one.

[Lucas]

Pretty sure either don or clownboy did. And you ignored them.

Oh, I got another one: Wingnuts ignore facts when presented to them and continue to act as if their argument wasn't refuted.

[Lucas]

Originally Posted by Zan de Man

Michael Moore is a polemicist, but he argues his case well. You may not like his style and you might be able to question some of his arguments but that's not enough to undermine his work. I'd like to hear your case that he shouldn't be taken seriously.

Maybe it's just his editor, then. Something was wrong and, indeed, incredibly misleading if you weren't previously well-informed, about Bowling For Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11. I haven't seen Roger and Me in a long time (although I loved it), and have never seen Sicko, so I can't speak for those. Canadian Bacon was okay.

[Dawildman]

Originally Posted by Lucas

Pretty sure either don or clownboy did. And you ignored them.

Oh, I got another one: Wingnuts ignore facts when presented to them and continue to act as if their argument wasn't refuted.

You're "pretty sure"??? Why not provide an example right now yourself? Because if you can't do this what does it say about your own thinking?

You can't think for yourself?

Now before anyone calls you a dumb ass: Name ONE.

Or shut the hell up.

[Lucas]

Ha. Don't get mad DWM! I asked you in that thread to define the terms; I didn't want to waste my time giving you an example only to have you shift the goalposts. Which is exactly what you did in that thread when you were told that the US fit your bill exactly. I'd venture Japan, but I'm sure you'd find a way to say that no, it wasn't conservative or no, it wasn't successful. So, now as then, I'm not wasting my time until you define the terms.

Regardless, when you were presented with the US in the other thread, you couldn't refute it.

Wingnut.

[Dawildman]

Originally Posted by Lucas

Ha. Don't get mad DWM! I asked you in that thread to define the terms; I didn't want to waste my time giving you an example only to have you shift the goalposts. Which is exactly what you did in that thread when you were told that the US fit your bill exactly. I'd venture Japan, but I'm sure you'd find a way to say that no, it wasn't conservative or no, it wasn't successful. So, now as then, I'm not wasting my time until you define the terms.

Regardless, when you were presented with the US in the other thread, you couldn't refute it.

Wingnut.

Successful should be defined in the obvious way: A rather fair and equitable arrangement for most people concerned.

Do we have generally find affordable health care?

Are there free elections?

Is there usually a low unemployment rate?

Does the average Joe get a decent length vacation?

Are the elderly taken care of? Good retirement, health care?

What constitutes the government budget, military adventures or a systematic plan for a sustainable country?



I mean what is the characteristic of an apple or an orange? I'd first say one is red the other orange.

Ain't so hard to figure.

[Lucas]

And the other set of of terms?

Wouldn't Japan fit?

[Dawildman]

Originally Posted by Lucas

And the other set of of terms?

Wouldn't Japan fit?

Took you long enough.

Might be the best answer I've heard yet. Close anyway. As to whether Japan is sustainable? Remains to be seen. They certainly have done a better job at investment in their own industries. Like building reliable gas efficient cars.

So you score a point in my book. That's hard to do.

As for is Japan's model is easily transferable to other countries? Probably not. They have a feeling of being the "purer race" and as such which leads to a general feeling of collective support by the people. Only one race lives there. In general that is.

Thanks!

[Lucas]

Took me long enough? Are you kidding? You already received an answer days ago and ignored it. Why? I can guess:

Folks that think no conservative state has ever been successful.

[Bonniedundee]

Originally Posted by ninjalooter1701

How so? By this thread? All you have is a few incidents.

Yet more support for DWM, Ninja.

Who said it just from this thread? In fact it is implied that it is not.

[Bonniedundee]

Originally Posted by Lucas

That's a very good start, but yes, I need more. Like 'Truthers'. People that think most people that oppose Obama are racist. People that listen to Alex Jones. People who take Michael Moore movies seriously. Keith Olbermann. Noam Chomsky. Folks that think no conservative state has ever been successful. Etc.

Together, we can make a pretty good list DWM!

Personally I like Chomsky. He's far from always correct but he has some interesting things to say on some issues.

[Bonniedundee]

Originally Posted by Zan de Man

Michael Moore is a polemicist, but he argues his case well. You may not like his style and you might be able to question some of his arguments but that's not enough to undermine his work. I'd like to hear your case that he shouldn't be taken seriously.

To me he is similar to O'Reilly and probably Beck. I wouldn't dismiss him completely but don't take him too seriously either.

[Bonniedundee]

Originally Posted by Zan de Man

I think you're overusing this "hyperpartisan hack" thing BD.

How? I'm using it against DWM. Do you think he is not one?

Do you think his debating tactics like using such crimes as this as some kind of way to score political points is acceptable?

I think you're not calling him out enough. DWM contributes nothing or I have seen him contribute nothing but hyperpartisan idiocy like he has in this thread.

Seeing as I've only used the term against DWM and Uplifter, both who very much deserve it, I fail to see how I'm overusing it. I've just decided to smack DWM down quite a lot rather than let him get away with such crap. The guy actually thinks he is scoring points against conservatism, don't tell me he doesn't deserve such treatment.

[Dawildman]

Three unanswered posts in a row Bonnie??? That's not exactly a sign of good sense. A stronger term applies there actually.

Anyone: What happened to that old shit slumlord Thaany? Again, I don't care about him. Just want to be included in the gossip.

I mean four unanswered post. Slipped one in b4 I could hit "send".

Weird!