China says 140 killed in riots in west

[EstebonRober]

Originally Posted by Francois Cellier

Leocn is allowed to express his views just as much as you are, Estebon. If you don't like his views, then don't read them, but this board is open to all political views. This is precisely what makes P&CA interesting and informative.

Its a disgusting misrepresentation done intentionally to mislead a reader, its not valid. The comparison is a joke. Just because you are in with the US hating around here Francois doesn't mean that what he just posted isn't a blatant misrepresentation of reality.

If China is so concerned about Islamic radicals why does it not support the US more openly?

[Francois Cellier]

Why don't you go about posting your own articles that show where Leocn's articles are lacking or misrepresenting the facts?

Please, do!

I don't state that you are wrong and Leocn is right in his representation ... only that Leocn is entitled to expressing his views, just as much as you are.

OK. I'll go a step further. In a minute or so, I'll post myself a few articles that expose other and mostly opposing views to those expressed by Leocn.

[Francois Cellier]

From Reuters

Chinese go online to vent ire at Xinjiang unrest

By Ben Blanchard
Tue Jul 7, 2009 12:24am EDT


SHANGHAI (Reuters) - Chinese are venting their anger online after ethnic unrest in the Muslim region of Xinjiang left at least 156 dead but are playing a cat-and-mouse game with censors who appear to be removing some posts and blogs.

Many of the comments demanded swift punishment for those involved, echoing remarks in official state media blaming exiled Uighur activist Rebiya Kadeer for masterminding the riots in Urumqi on Sunday.

Almost half of Xinjiang's 20 million people are Muslim Uighurs, but they have long complained Han Chinese reap most of the benefits from official investment and subsidies, while making Uighurs -- a Turkic, largely Islamic people who share linguistic and cultural bonds with Central Asia -- feel like outsiders.

Along with Tibet, Xinjiang is one of the most politically sensitive regions in China and in both places the government has sought to maintain its grip by controlling religious and cultural life while promising economic growth and prosperity.

"Destroy the conspiracy, strike hard against these saboteurs, and strike even more fiercely than before," according to an anonymous posting on a blog by a person known as "Chang Qing" on portal ÐÂÀËÊ×Ò³.

Some warned Hans, China's predominant ethnic group, would take revenge.

"The blood debt will be repaid. Han compatriots unite and rise up," wrote "Jason" on search engine °Ù¶Èһϣ¬Äã¾ÍÖªµÀ.

Others have sought to invoke the spirit of Wang Zhen, the Chinese general who is reviled and feared by many Uighurs for the repression when he led Communist troops into Xinjiang in 1949 to bring it into the newly formed People's Republic of China.

"Study this hard," wrote one posting above a potted history of Wang apparently taken from a Chinese history book.

Still, a few people appealed for greater understanding of Uighur grievances.

"If your family members have no rights, no power, are discriminated against and made fun of, not only will your family collapse, you will already have sown the seeds of hatred," wrote "Bloody Knife".

One person, called "zfc883919" and writing on Xinjiang portal ÌìÑÄÉçÇø_È«Çò»ªÈËÍøÉϼÒÔ°, said he did not understand how the police could have let the death toll rise so high.

"What on earth were you doing? That was 156 living beings. I hope relevant authorities really learn a lesson, so that this kind of tragedy is not repeated."

Yet authorities have been working fast to remove comments about the violence, apparently to prevent ethnic hatred from spreading or Internet users questioning government policies toward regions populated by ethnic minorities.

Many blogs have simply posted articles from the domestic media about the unrest, but in the section where readers are invited to leave their thoughts is written: "There are no comments at this time" -- unusual, given the popularity of blogs in China with 300 million Internet users.

Some sites which had posted graphic images of beaten and bloody bodies, purportedly taken during or after the riots, also had them swiftly removed.

[Francois Cellier]

From the Daily Telegraph

Han Chinese mob takes to the streets in Urumqi in hunt for Uighur Muslims

Thousands of Chinese protesters armed with axes, machetes and hammers have taken to the streets in Urumqi, Xinjiang, in an escalation of the violence that has claimed 156 lives so far.

By Peter Foster in Urumqi
Published: 9:03AM BST 07 Jul 2009


Police set up roadblocks and fired tear gas into the crowd of up to 10,000 people to prevent them reaching People's Square, the heart of the city.

The Han Chinese protesters streamed down North Jiefang road and into the alleys behind a central mosque in a bid to hunt down any local Uighur Muslims.

Protesters said they were seeking revenge after hearing rumours that ethnic Uighurs had broken into Urumqi's hospitals and killed several patients.

"We want revenge for our dead," the mob chanted, between choruses of the Chinese national anthem. Several groups in cars raced up and down the streets, with people hanging out of the windows.

One woman, armed with a five-foot wooden stake, said: "We heard from the television that Uighurs had killed hundreds of Han Chinese, including children. We cannot bear it anymore. We cannot live our lives in this city. We will show the Uighurs that the Han people can join our hands together also."

Behind her, tear gas canisters skittled and exploded as the crowd waved red flags and shouted "Qian shou!" or "Hold your hands together!" Another man said: "We heard that some Uighurs had broken into the hospital and killed patients. Now we are helping the police to crush the separatists."

Policemen used loudspeakers to urge the mob to "Calm down, don't smash buildings and back off. Let the police do their job." However the crowd showed little sign of dispersing. Waves of excitement rippled through the protesters as local shopkeepers and office workers cheered them on.

Chinese reports suggested the local Han Chinese, unhappy with the level of protection they had received from police, were now taking matters into their own hands.

The riots, which began when a peaceful protest by ethnic Uighurs spiralled out of control on Sunday, appear to be increasingly fuelled by wild rumours spread over the internet and by word of mouth.

Local Uighurs said they had heard that Han Chinese factory workers in Guangdong had killed 600 Uighurs and chopped them into small pieces.

Others claimed that 400 Uighur women had been raped by Han Chinese.

"Our menfolk will never forgive this," said one Uighur woman.

Meanwhile, Han Chinese vented their fury over the internet. "Destroy the conspiracy, strike hard against these saboteurs, and strike even more fiercely than before," said a poster calling himself Chang Qing on Sina.com, one of the most popular portals.

"The blood debt will be repaid. Han compatriots unite and rise up," said another commentator on Baidu.com, a search engine.

Earlier on Tuesday, Wang Lequan, the party secretary of Xinjiang said that although Sunday's unrest had been quelled, "this struggle is far from over".

[Francois Cellier]

From Reuters

China tightens Web screws after Xinjiang riot

By Ben Blanchard

Mon Jul 6, 2009 8:19am EDT


SHANGHAI (Reuters) - China clamped down on the Internet in the capital of China's northwestern region of Xinjiang on Monday, in the hope of stemming the flow of information about ethnic unrest which left 140 people dead.

The government has blamed Sunday's riots in Urumqi -- the deadliest unrest since the 1989 military crackdown on the Tiananmen pro-democracy demonstrations -- on exiled Muslim separatists.

Some residents in Urumqi, Xinjiang's regional capital, said they had been told there would be no Internet access for 48 hours.

"Since yesterday evening I haven't been able to get online," store owner Han Zhenyu told Reuters by telephone.

"No Internet here. Friends said they cannot log on, either," said a mobile phone seller who gave only his surname, Zhang.

The websites of the Urumqi city and Xinjiang regional governments were also down.

But the government appears to have thrown the net even wider, with users in capital Beijing and financial hub Shanghai complaining social networking site Twitter has also been blocked.

Fanfou.com, a domestic competitor of Twitter, was still accessible, though searches for key words such as "Urumqi," "Xinjiang" and "Uighur" gave no results.

China has previously shut down communications in parts of Tibet, where ethnic unrest had erupted or was feared, and ahead of the 20th anniversary of the Tiananmen crackdown, as the government seeks to control the release of news through only official state media.

Yet in China, where a computer-savvy youth has embraced the Internet with enthusiasm, the government has not been able to control all the information seeping out of Xinjiang.

"The incident has largely subsided, but armored cars were still in town this morning," one user, who said he was in Urumqi, wrote on Fanfou.com.

Several popular sites showed images claiming to be from the riots -- including one of a badly-mutilated body whose head had been almost hacked off.

Reuters has not been able to verify the authenticity of the pictures, many of which, like the one of the dead body, were removed after only a short time on the Internet.

Still, other Internet users took to the Web to express their anger over the riots.

"Resolutely smash the splitist forces and terrorists!" wrote on person on sina.com.cn, underneath a news report showing pictures of palls of black smoke enveloping Urumqi.

Yet the censor has also been working fast to remove most of the comments about the violence in Xinjiang, apparently to prevent ethnic hatred from spreading or Internet users questioning government policies toward regions populated by ethnic minorities.

By early afternoon, the bulletin board on Shanghai site pchome.net had numerous comments about the unrest, but they all vanished a few hours later, and replaced with the line: "This posting does not exist."

[Francois Cellier]

Happy now?

[leocn]

democracy,based on truth or what ?u talk ,i talk,or just as EstebonRober said:leocn ,go away?

Violence in Urumqi not a peaceful protest, FM spokesman
The Sunday violence in Urumqi was "an evil killing, fire setting and looting", said Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang on Tuesday.
"Anybody calling the violence a peaceful protest is trying to turn black into white in an attempt to mislead the public," Qin told a regular press conference.
More than 150 people died and a further 1,000-odd were injured in the riot Sunday evening in Urumqi, capital of northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region.
Qin said this was an action born out of the fear of Xinjiang's social progress, solidification and prosperity.
"The violence is a preempted, organized violent crime. It is instigated and directed from abroad, and carried out by outlaws in the country," Qin said, noting that the evidence was irrefutable and conclusive.
Xinjiang police said Monday they had evidence that separatist World Uyghur Congress leader Rebiya Kadeer masterminded the riot.
Rebiya Kadeer, a former businesswoman in China, was detained in 1999 on charges of harming national security. She was released on bail on March 17, 2005 to seek medical treatment in the United States.
"Rebiya Kadeer is also involved in serious economic crime," Qin said, noting that the Chinese government, out of humanitarian consideration, allowed her to remain out of custody and obtain medical treatment, and she had promised not to engage in actions endangering the country's security before her departure.
A series of facts in recent years proved that she was totally a liar. She took separatist actions at all times when living abroad, Qin said, urging related countries to see clearly the essence of Eastern Turkestan groups, and not to extend sympathy or support to them in any form.
According to a local official, the Chinese authorities had evidence that Rebiya Kadeer used the Internet and other means of communication to mastermind the riot in Xinjiang.
Internet was cut in parts of Urumqi following the deadly riot to prevent violence from spreading.
Qin said this measure was taken in order to deal with the incident and safeguard local stability.
After the Sunday riot, The Xinjiang judicial departments arrested some suspects in order to safeguard the normal life of the local people.
"What they have done was justified, and any country could take the same measures while facing this violence," Qin said.
He also said the China, by rule of law, would not wrong one innocent person, nor setting free any evil one.
Qin refuted the accusation by some human rights organizations criticizing Chinese government's measures to deal with Xinjiang violence.
"Those organizations view the case with bias, and their conclusion could not objective undoubtedly, and it stands in the opposite direction of ethics, laws and all Chinese people's minds," he said.
Foreign journalists, about 60 in number, were in Xinjiang on a reporting trip arranged by the Information Office of the State Council, the Chinese Cabinet.
"China takes an open and transparent principle on the news report, and offer active help and convenience for the foreign and Chinese journalists to cover news in Xinjiang," Qin said.
A press center had been established in Urumqi, with service offered by officials there, Qin said, hoping that the media would fairly report the truth.
Qin also reminded the reporters to abide by related regulations and laws, and take care of their own security.

Xinjiang to adopt curfew in capital city tonight Source: Xinhua [17:38 July 07 2009] Comments The city of Urumqi will adopt a curfew from 9:00 p.m. to 8:00 a.m. Wednesday to avoid
The city of Urumqi will adopt a curfew from 9:00 p.m. to 8:00 a.m. Wednesday to avoid further chaos, said Wang Lequan, secretary of the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region Committee of the Communist Party of China (CPC), in a televised speech on Tuesday.




156 killed, 1,080 injured in Xinjiang riots

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A curfew is imposed on the city of Urumqi in western China for a second night after ethnic riots on Sunday left 156 people dead.

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From the Independent

China struggles to end tide of ethnic violence

Uighur women protest about seizure of husbands by police

By Andrew Buncombe and Quentin Sommerville in Urumqi
Wednesday, 8 July 2009


Chinese riot police came face to face with a crowd of defiant Uighur women on the streets of Urumqi yesterday. The demonstrators were in the city's Muslim quarter, enraged at the arrests of their husbands after clashes that killed scores of Han Chinese and Uighurs earlier this week. At one point, protesters charged the security forces, some hurling their shoes, but the baton-wielding paramilitaries stepped back.

Eventually, following a standoff lasting half an hour, the crowd was dispersed by the city's ordinary police force. Anyone found to have wounds suggesting they had been involved in street fights was detained. The groups of wailing women said police had entered their community on Monday evening and strip-searched their husbands and sons.

"My husband was detained at gunpoint," a woman, who gave her name as Aynir, told the Associated Press. "They were hitting people, they were stripping people naked. My husband was scared so he locked the door, but the police broke down the door and took him away."

There was fresh bloodshed later in the day as rival mobs wielding meat cleavers and clubs marched the streets. At times, badly outnumbered security personnel appeared unable to control the swelling violence. As groups of Uighurs attacked people near the city's railway station, up to 1,000 Han Chinese seeking revenge marched through the streets chanting "defend the country". Office workers came down to their doors and cheered them on. Some joined the group, which then tried to make its way to a Muslim neighbourhood as police looked on. The protesters were eventually forced back by volleys of tear gas.

The violence – the worst in the region for decades – broke out despite hundreds of police and paramilitaries taking up positions around the city and arresting overnight up to 1,400 people said to have been involved in clashes on Sunday that left more than 150 dead and scores more injured. Truckloads of reinforcements continued to pour into the city in an attempt to staunch the bloodshed.

Last night, as the violence continued, authorities announced a curfew, which was enforced by armed police in an attempt to calm the situation. Earlier in the day, however, the city's party boss could be seen chanting slogans with a Han Chinese mob. Li Zhi climbed on top of a police vehicle and started pumping his fists and rallying the crowd.

Xinjiang is no stranger to ethnic clashes. Tension has grown as Beijing has encouraged the migration of Han Chinese to the once autonomous region, a policy it has also adopted in Tibet. The Uighurs now make up barely half the population. The Muslim Uighurs complain that their customs, culture, and religious freedom are being eroded.

The current violence was triggered after a peaceful demonstration, organised by Uighurs in response to a deadly ethnic clash at a factory in eastern China, got out of control. Reports suggest that Uighurs set upon groups of Han Chinese and set fire to their shops and cars.

That was certainly the story told by the armed Han Chinese who took to the streets of Urumqi. Many were carrying makeshift weapons such as shovels and pieces of timber. "Those Muslims killed so many of our people. We just can't let that happen," one man in a crowd, armed with a long, wooden stick, told the Associated Press.

Elsewhere, Han Chinese watched terrified as groups of Uighurs carrying bricks and knives started attacking store-owners and passers-by. "They were using everything for weapons, like bricks, sticks and cleavers," said a man who gave his name as Mr Ma, an employee at a fast-food restaurant. "Whenever the rioters saw someone on the street, they would ask, 'Are you a Uighur?' If they kept silent, or couldn't answer in the Uighur language, they would get beaten or killed."

Beijing has blamed the violence on Rebiya Kadeer, an exiled Uighur leader currently based in the US. She has denied any involvement.

In an effort to control the news of what is happening, Beijing has slowed down mobile phone networks and internet services. At the same time, state-controlled media has carried graphic images of the unrest. It has focused largely on the Han Chinese victims of the violence.

Uighurs living in exile have dismissed claims that the violence was anything other than a spontaneous reaction to decades of discrimination. Wu'er Kaixi, a Uighur and one of the best-known dissidents from the Tiananmen Square crackdown 20 years ago, said there had been no improvement in the country's human rights record. "For a long time, Uighurs have been discriminated against and suppressed in China," he said. "So much so that we're almost colonised."

[EstebonRober]

Nah I was only talking about his misrepresentation of a few well known abuses by americans, making that out to be the way we operate is a false representation. . .

Thank you though Franc, it is good to hear that the CCCP in China is calling for calm from the Han population. . .It might be better if they stopped trying to colonize the area, but who am I to criticize they took it around WWII. . .Imo all blatant imperial acts were fair game until more recently. . .

[leocn]

before talk,do research!

Xinjiang, most of the original column is the name of the state, Han said the Western Regions, which means the western part of the Chinese territory, the name appeared in China since the Han Dynasty historical records, has been used to the reunification of the Qing Dynasty, Xinjiang, and then renamed Xinjiang.
Modern all over the Xinjiang archaeological data show that in the latest Liuqiqiannian In the past, Xinjiang has been human activity. In some previous Ersanqiannian since the Neolithic Age, around the north-south of the Tianshan, such as three-Hami Pandaoling, Kok seven wells, the Turpan Basin Astana, the Chaiwopu Urumqi County, as well as Mori, Qitai, Yili, Kuche, Bachu, Qiemo, Yutian, Paper Hill and other places have human remains ancestors activities, the shapes of the stone, engraved to play as well as technical co-existence of pottery color, and pattern of China's Gansu Province, Inner Mongolia, Ningxia and other places close.
Xinjiang's top traffic channel things, the history of frequent ethnic migration and exchanges, resulting in Xinjiang, the ancient residents of the complex is a germ-line ethnic and national relations.
Western Regions with the Central Plains region has a long history of exchanges between the contact. A long time ago, China's silk and silk fabrics will be exported to China by Western Europe and South Asia, China, said the ancient Greeks as the "silk country." This along in the past, this east-west trade route is that the Commission for future generations of the "Silk Road."
China's ancient history in the Western Regions for the true history of geographic specific records began in the Han Dynasty when the same is also the Han Dynasty, the central government began to set in the Western Regions all over the local government bodies, so, since the Han Dynasty, the Western Regions in China is already an integral An integral part. Western Han Dynasty to the early years of north-south around the Tianshan Mountains has been a great socio-economic development.
Western Han Dynasty is the great cause of reunification of the Western Regions from the beginning of the crusade against the Huns. Hun is at a time when the Qin and Han Dynasties in China's northern grasslands area of strength, a strong nomadic, weak at the beginning, after the strong. Huns in the north of the region, including the unification of the jurisdiction of the Western Regions, putting an end to all nomadic tribes in the region for a long time with no command of the division of the situation, then for national unity has created conditions for the formation of the situation.
Emperor Liu Che in order to defeat the Huns, to consolidate its rule, "the Western Regions pass to the right arm off the Huns, isolated from the South Qiang, Yue Shi." To this end, he first sent Zhang Qian twice as ambassador to the Western Regions to strengthen cooperation with the Western Regions all of us together to deal with the Huns. Zhang Qian to make the West deepened the Central Plains region of the Western Regions understanding between the close political, economic ties, expansion of the Western Regions in the Han Dynasty to all the political influence of the Han Dynasty created the conditions for reunification of the Western Regions.
Zhang Qian for the first time shortly after the envoy to the Western Regions, the Han Dynasty in 121 BC, the general Huoqu Bing Zhu Mu defeated in the Hexi Corridor in the vicinity of the Xiongnu Hunxie Wang and Wang Tu break, the home of the Han Dynasty in Wuwei, Jiuquan County, two (after the For the Wuwei, Zhangye, Jiuquan and Dunhuang Si Jun), which cut off with the Xiongnu on the whole, Qiang Zhu Bu. After the Han Dynasty and Xiongnu Wusun alliance to make even more isolated in the Western Regions, 109 BC, the Han Army generals Zhao broke, and other slave Western Expedition led his troops break through Loulan, no matter the division, and other Western city. 102 years ago, Han-Jun Wan Cheng big break (this Fergana), the countries of the Western Regions in the Han Dynasty in the increase in prestige. The following year, the Han Dynasty in the round of the Western Regions and Taiwan, Li drainage and other places unmanning Dynasty, envoys and home Xiao Wei's command. Xiao Yu is the messenger of the Government of the Han Dynasty in the Western Regions of the earliest local officials.
In 60 BC, stationed on the Western down-by-Shan Wang Han, from South and North Tianshan Mountains to the Han Dynasty were the central government command. The establishment of the Western Regions Frontier House, marking the Western Regions all since then to become a unified multi-ethnic part of the great motherland. Han Dynasty in the political, economic and military strengthening of the Western Regions with the Central Plains region.
At the end of the Western Han Dynasty, as relatives chaos, the usurper Wang Mang, the Mainland Tianshan political instability around the complex in the North-South split the divided state. The early years of the Eastern Han Dynasty, the Huns to the south, to rule the Western Regions all over. Year 73, of the Eastern Han Dynasty sent troops north Gongfa Hun, Han will be solid sinus, and so on GENG Zhong led the troops out of Jiuquan, in the Tianshan area called Hun beat Wang Yan, occupied Yiwu (Hami City today). At the same time, the Department of sinus solid, and then ordered to leave Sima Ban Chao-shun of the westbound south of the Tianshan to regain occupied territory and Ban Chao for its excellent political and military competence, help people all over the Western Regions, Nanzhengbeizhan effectively stabilized The political situation in the Western Regions, after the closure to the Western Regions Frontier Command "as far Hou." Ban Chao during his term, Gan Ying and others were also in Year 97 years as ambassador to the Datong-Qinhuangdao (Eastern Roman Empire), whose mission has arrived in the footsteps of the Persian Gulf, so that the East-West link between develop further.
Western Han period, with the East-West economic and cultural exchanges and communication, has greatly promoted the Western-led socio-economic development. Western crop of sesame, beans, pomegranates, garlic, grapes, alfalfa and so on have been introduced to the mainland, the reputation of "Pegasus" big Wan Ma, Ma Wusun, a variety of fur through the "Silk Road" to continue into the To the Central Plains region. At the same time, the original area of silk and silk fabrics are imported by the West and Western-Europe. In addition, accompanied by soldiers Dynasty and the Western Regions were imported advanced production tools and experience in agriculture, such as iron-wah, Tiechu iron farm tools and so on behalf of the field and law, technology and wells have iron technology.
Western Regions of handicrafts such as pottery making, wool textiles, jade manufacturing process technology are quite high level. Han Han in Xinjiang widely popular five-baht money, money, as well as Ma Hetian silver, and so that the rest of the region's booming commercial level.
Existing caves and murals of a large number of Chinese records show at the time of Western art music and dance have a very high level, and to a significant impact on the Mainland.
Wei and Jin Dynasties period, the Western Regions there have been social unrest and national integration. During the Sui and Tang dynasties in China's feudal society of unprecedented prosperity, and prosperity of the period. Tang Dynasty unified the Western Regions, and in most of the Western Regions established Anxi and Beiting House nursing care most of the government, as well as the Uighur moved westward, this time in the history of the Western Regions of the two major events. During the Northern Song Dynasty, there is a Western Gaochang Uighur Kingdom, the son of the Kingdom of Khotan, Kara Han Dynasty exist side by side in three of the local government. In the Southern Song period, the Yutian Kingdom into the Karahan Kingdom, but there have been Xi Liao Dynasty.
In 1206, the establishment of Mongol Empire, in 1271 changed the name of the country for the yuan. Yuan Dynasty in most parts of the Western Regions for the second son of Genghis Khan Chagatai the manor. Ming Dynasty, the Western Regions in the east under the rule of Chagatai Khanate. By the middle of the Ming Dynasty, Chagatai Khanate East into a Yarkant Khanate. Yuan and Ming dynasties, the Western Regions to protect people of all ethnic groups and to open up the frontier of the motherland, prosperity and Western economic, scientific and cultural development of technology, made outstanding contributions.
China's Qing Dynasty is a unified multi-ethnic country an unprecedented period of consolidation and development. By the middle of the 18th century, the Qing Dynasty had put down the aristocracy and the Junggar, and a small rebel Zhuo, a unity in Xinjiang and has adopted a series of effective measures to control this territory in the northwest of China for the final definition of Xinjiang and its major national distribution pattern The formation, as well as among ethnic groups in Xinjiang, Xinjiang and the Central Plains between the political, economic and cultural contacts and exchanges, had a profound impact. In 1771, in Torghut Wo Baxi led by the head of the reunification of the motherland.
24 Qianlong (1759), renamed the Western Regions "Xinjiang" or "Western Xinjiang," the Qing government to start all over the home in the Xinjiang Government House, the central government to exercise jurisdiction throughout the South and the North Tianshan governance. Xinjiang with the mainland's military and political systems are basically the same, the reunification of the country situation has been further strengthened.
1840 Opium War of China's modern society is the beginning of the Opium War, Xinjiang and other parts of the motherland,半封建半殖民地gradually reduced to a community. People of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang to the anti-foreign invasion and oppose splitting, as well as against the oppression of the feudal exploitation of the fight more arduous task. Xinjiang with the fate of the motherland are getting closer and closer.
For the first time since the Opium War, increasingly weak Qing Dynasty, China's territorial sovereignty has been trampled on imperialism. Located at the northwestern border of the motherland in Xinjiang by Russia to embezzle more victims. The Czar of Russia on the completion of the expansion of Siberia after the beginning of our invasion and occupation of the territory. 1860 to 1851, Russia forced the Qing government to sign the Shimonoseki "Beijing Sino-Russian Treaty", "Sino-Russian border survey sub-northwest at about setting" and "Taiwan, China and Russia Yili range of trade statute." Due to the decline of the Qing Dynasty, adjacent to Central Asia's Kokand Xinjiang Russia ordered by the State, through the annexation of Xinjiang in an attempt to further control China. Zhuo and a number of reactionary under the banner of "holy war" banner, taking cities and seizing territory, stop at no evil, to calm people in Xinjiang Disaster. Russia also an excuse for the peasant uprising and Yili A Gubai a threat to Russian security forces, under the protection of the name and on behalf of ex openly Yili occupation troops. Xinjiang to face the danger of foreign invasion to carve up.
After the Qing government in a so-called "coastal defense and anti-Serbian secret melon" after the debate, the Northwest defense of the new rulers of the Qing get attention. The first year of Emperor Guangxu (1875), Shaanxi and Gansu Governor General Tso made by the imperial minister to supervise the handling military affairs in Xinjiang. Jiang Qing into the tide of history, people of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang have been upheld and supported. Guangxu to the end, the Qing have been recovered from the Tianshan Mountains in the south, Agu Bo aggressive regime annihilated.
Guangxu February 2007, the Qing government envoy Tseng Chi-tse (Zeng's son) and Russia after a difficult diplomatic struggle, after several twists and turns, finally reached the "Sino-Russian Treaty on the Ili," the treaty the following year Russia agreed to withdraw troops Yili, China Compensation in order to allow Russia and Xinjiang in the trade do not pay taxes, Russia and Jiayuguan in the Turpan-based consul at the cost. In 1882, Yili has finally returned to the motherland.
10-year Guangxu (1884), the Qing government in Xinjiang Province, Shang Yu Jian, LIU Jin-tang, was appointed as the first governor of Xinjiang. Dihua Zhili will be promoted to the State House, military and administrative center of Xinjiang Urumqi moved from Ili. Israeli government to implement the system as the main body of the diversity of the administrative system into a single system, counties transition, so that the administrative building Xinjiang into line with the mainland.
Xinjiang operation of the Qing Dynasty, both the size and scope are a lot more history, has been an unprecedented social and economic progress and development. 1, Frontier Dynasty, the cause of land reclamation on an unprecedented scale. 2, migration and population growth. 3, the development and utilization of mineral resources into a new period. 4, to a certain extent the development of commerce and trade. 5, to set up a variety of culture and education.
Entered the year the Qing Dynasty in the 20th century, is a dead end, the fate draws near, the rising bourgeois revolutionary movement. The footsteps of the revolutionary party members, but also set foot on the land in Xinjiang. October 1911 Wuchang Uprising in the near future, Liu Xianjun Xinjiang revolutionary party members and others planned for the city Dihua instigated the uprising. As a result of the failure of a traitor and betrayed. The following year, with Yang Xu Jia, Wundt people, Huang Li-fu, led by the revolutionary party member in the success of the Ili uprising. Declared the reactionary rule of the Qing Dynasty in the Ili end. After step down as a result of the Qing Dynasty Emperor Xuantong, Yang Yuan by the new life for the captaincy general of Xinjiang, Yang used by the new hardware and software means to force party members to compromise the revolution, led by the bourgeoisie Yili failed uprising. However, of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang's Ili uprising as a person under the influence of the bourgeois revolution to overthrow the launch of the Qing Dynasty, the feudal autocratic system to bury the great credit of revolutionary struggle. Ili in Xinjiang uprising has inspired people of all anti-imperialist struggle of the patriotic enthusiasm and fighting spirit.
Yang Yili theft of a new uprising by the results, as Xinjiang captaincy general, the implementation of the dictatorial regime, not to create the nation, the implementation of obscurantism and repression of different views. Was opposed to all sectors of society. Rule in Xinjiang for 17 years, finally died of internal strife ruling clique. In 1928, Ji Jin Shuren ignorance over the captaincy general of Xinjiang, further deepening social unrest. At the end of 1933, Jin Shuren forced to flee. The insidious cunning Sheng Shicai feudal warlords took over captaincy general, began his 10-year-old reactionary rule.
In 1933, Xinjiang was troubled. Mohammed led to Yimin Que sudden large elements in a vain attempt to split the motherland and sabotage national unity, but because of people's minds to the north, a few months after the destruction.
Sheng Shicai is a typical reactionary politicians. Put on a pair of active management of the hypocritical face of Xinjiang, and actively developing relations with the Soviet Union, the use of the Soviet Union in a vain attempt to maintain its support, "Wang Xinjiang," the status of the dictatorship. Progress in a number of young people and the impact of the Soviet Union with the help of Sheng Shicai in 1936 to form "anti-imperialist, pro-Soviet, the flat, clean, peaceful, construction," the "six major policies." In 1937, the Marco Polo Bridge Incident, the Communist Party of China in order to unite all anti-Japanese forces, with Sheng Shicai to form the anti-Japanese national united front. In October 1937, Sheng Shicai I agree with the party's Eighth Route Army in the establishment of the Office of the Dihua, director tende far. Subsequently, the Central Committee sent more than a hundred party members to work in Xinjiang.
Chinese communists in Xinjiang's achievements in the work of Sheng Shicai to make a great deal of anxiety in 1939 it is trying to create friction, relations cool. Germany and France in 1941 to launch a war to invade the Soviet Union, Sheng Shicai wrongly situation, the public and the Soviet Union and Communist China a complete break. To create the so-called "conspiracy on April 12 riot was" killing the CPC party members and the brutal murder of Chen Tanqiu, Mao Zemin, Lu Lin, and other CPC members, six to abandon the policy, investment

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Anti-terror expert: World Uyghur Congress behind Xinjiang violence
Evidence showed that World Uyghur Congress had masterminded Sunday's deadly violence in northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, a Chinese counter-terrorism expert told Xinhua Tuesday.

rebiya and da lai
"Judging from what Rebiya Kadeer,leader of the World Uyghur Congress, had said and done, it is fair to say the organization masterminded the incident," said Li Wei, director of the Center for Counter-Terrorism Studies with the China Institute of Contemporary International Relations.
"After the March 14 unrest in Tibet last year, Kadeer said in public that something similar should happen in Xinjiang. The riot in Urumqi bore some similarities with the March 14 incident."
Kadeer had been in close relations to the Dalai Lama, Li said, noting that the Xinjiang riot was regarded by experts as an "intentional imitation" of what happened in Lhasa.
"The riot was by no means incidental and spontaneous," he noted. "It was well organized as riots, targeting civilians, occurred at several locations at the same time."
Xinjiang police said Monday they had evidence that Rebiya Kadeer masterminded the Sunday riot, and had obtained recordings of calls between overseas Eastern Turkestan groups and their accomplices inside the country.
In the recorded calls, Kadeer said, "Something will happen in Urumqi." She also called her younger brother in Urumqi, saying, "We know a lot of things have happened," referring to the June 26 brawl involving workers from Xinjiang in a toy factory in Guangdong Province.
"This year marks the 60th anniversary of the founding of the People's Republic of China," Li said. "The World Uyghur Congress has chosen this specific time to do damage."

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Originally Posted by EstebonRober

Nah I was only talking about his misrepresentation of a few well known abuses by americans, making that out to be the way we operate is a false representation. . .

Thank you though Franc, it is good to hear that the CCCP in China is calling for calm from the Han population. . .It might be better if they stopped trying to colonize the area, but who am I to criticize they took it around WWII. . .Imo all blatant imperial acts were fair game until more recently. . .

Actually, China took over the Xinjiang region in and around the early 1700's before even the US began colonizing the American continent and slaughtering hundreds of thousands of native Americans.
China did so without slaughtering.
Today the violence is instigated by the ughers not the han.

[EstebonRober]

Originally Posted by jfuh

Actually, China took over the Xinjiang region in and around the early 1700's before even the US began colonizing the American continent and slaughtering hundreds of thousands of native Americans.
China did so without slaughtering.
Today the violence is instigated by the ughers not the han.

Yea so um I don;t really care, I just don't but the Han have apparently been flooding in recently making the Ughers fight back. Its gotten brutal but China can do whatever it wants. . .First off it should give its people a real bill of rights or some real recourse to the law. . .I choose not go on. . .For obvious reasons, I could write a book about all the things i hope for with China. . .

[jfuh]

Originally Posted by EstebonRober

Yea so um I don;t really care, I just don't but the Han have apparently been flooding in recently making the Ughers fight back. Its gotten brutal but China can do whatever it wants. . .First off it should give its people a real bill of rights or some real recourse to the law. . .I choose not go on. . .For obvious reasons, I could write a book about all the things i hope for with China. . .

So the han should have their movement limited and prevented from living in a place of their choosing so as to protect the feelings and sensitivities of the Ughers?

[Francois Cellier]

Xinjiang, similar to Israel, has been at the crossroad of cultures since the dawn of history. Yes, this has been a strategic point on the silk route, but even before then, it has been on the path between Asia and Europe. The hords of Dshenghis Khan roamed through Xinjiang, and the Uyghurs are actually the remnants of those hords. This route was traveled since the time of the big migration, caused by the drying out of the central Asian lake, that brought the hords of the Huns and the Vandals all the way to Europe.

The result of this migratory pattern is that, to this day, people of different cultures speaking different languages live relatively closely together in a stretch of lands from Xinjiang in the East to the Caucasus in the West.

This can best be seen in Afghanistan, an area that can only be successfully governed by a loose cooperation between individual tribal leaders, because each tribe represents a different group of people having different cultural heritage and using different languages that are hardly related to each other.

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hehe,everything is possible in china
xinjiang is not Israel or tribal in Afghanistan

china,over 5000 years history,let us learn something
Confucianism
　The Analects
　Mengzi
　Liji
　Xunzi
　Xiao Jing
　Shuo Yuan
　Han Shi Wai Zhuan
　Da Dai Li Ji
　Bai Hu Tong
　Xin Shu
　Xin Xu
Mohism
　Mozi
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　Mozi Jiangu
　Mo Jing Jiao Shi
Daoism
　Zhuangzi
　Dao De Jing
　Liezi
　He Guan Zi
Legalism
　Hanfeizi
　Shang Jun Shu
　Shen Bu Hai
　Shenzi
　Jian Zhu Ke Shu
　Guanzi
School of Names
　Gongsunlongzi
School of the Military
　The Art of War
　Wu Zi
　Liu Tao
　Si Ma Fa
　Wei Liao Zi
　Three Strategies
Mathematics
　Hai Dao Suan Jing
　The Nine Chapters
　Sunzi Suan Jing
Miscellaneous Schools
　Huainanzi
　Gui Gu Zi
　Yin Wen Zi
　Deng Xi Zi
Histories
　Shiji
　Chun Qiu Zuo Zhuan
　Chun Qiu Fan Lu
　Lu Shi Chun Qiu
　Lost Book of Zhou
　Guo Yu
　Yanzi Chun Qiu
　Wu Yue Chun Qiu
　Yue Jue Shu
　Zhan Guo Ce
　Yan Tie Lun
　Lie Nu Zhuan
　Guliang Zhuan
　Gongyang Zhuan
Ancient Classics
　Book of Poetry
　Shang Shu
　Book of Changes
　The Rites of Zhou
　Chu Ci
　Yili
Lao Zi
Spring and Autumn Annals, thinkers, the founder of Taoism. Dan said that an old, surnamed Li from the ears, the word Bai Yang, Chu from the county (this Henan Lue East) Rural Qu Li Ren Li, Zhou dynasty done, "Shou history of the Tibetan Room" (the historiographer management books), Confucius had he asked ceremony, retired after, the "Lao Zi." I say that Tai Shi Danzhou, or old son Levin. "I," a book whether I made, there have always been controversial. "I" to "Road" to explain the evolution of the universe things that the "Road of Health one, and his two, the Health III Sansheng things," and "Road" is a "Fumo orders (orders) often natural" and therefore "people Law, the law of days, the law of heaven Road, Imitation of Nature. " "Road" objective laws of nature, but also with "independent not changed, but not perilous weeks," the eternal significance. "I" in the dialectics included a large number of plain view, such as that all things are all positive and negative sides. "Road - to move," and by the opposition to the transformation, "is complex surprising, good for the rehabilitation of God", "calamity Reliance fortune by the blessing of the good fortune of something bad. " And the world that things are "yes" and "no" unified, "Yes, no phase", and "no" as the basis, "all things are born, not born." "Tianzhidao, the loss can not be replenished, while dealing Otherwise, the remaining losses are not Feng", "people's hunger, the number of its tax on food", "Light of the dead, its survival on the thick"; "Minbuweisi, ', the fear of death?." Its doctrine of China with a profound impact on the development of philosophy, mainly see the "I".
Confucius Confucious
The late Spring and Autumn thinker, statesman, educator, founder of the Confucian doctrine. Venturi name, the word Zhong Ni. Luguo corner town (this southeastern Shandong Qufu) people. Xianshi Song for the aristocracy. Less "poor and lowly", and long served as the "appointed officials" (Secretary accounting) and "Norita" (of livestock), and other things. Division of impermanence, Legend has it asked Speaking at the old Dan, of happy changchu WONG, Xiang Xue-Qin in slaughter Luguo promoted Sikou, perturbation of the matter trip. Then has visited Song Wei and Chen, Cai, Qi, Chu, and other countries, who called himself "if I use, I Zhouhu its East?" To see to the end. Committed to education in their twilight years, finishing "Poetry", "book", and other ancient literature, and Xiu Lu historiographer censored by the mind, "Spring and Autumn" and become China's first book series in the history of. Legend has it a total of 3,000 disciples, which are more than 70 famous people (wisdom). His thinking "-" core, that "benevolence" "Lover." The "others what it does not want," Do not do, "Yu-li, old people have, to have up to the people" and so forth, the idea of "loyalty and forgiveness" of the Road, and that the implementation of the "benevolent" should be "at the" norms : "Kejifuli Benevolence." The Yanzhou since the ghosts of religious superstition, and attitudes to doubt that the "unknown health, is a ghost in disguise", "I do not know life without also think that gentleman." Also pay attention to "learning" and "thinking", the combination of the "without thought is of note that, without thinking of the perilous" and "Wenguerzhixin" perspective. First private lecture atmosphere, and that's abilities, "Education without discrimination", "Huaerbuya, Huirenbujuan" and emphasized that "gentleman of the wife Road, the villain is easy to learn, also." Politically the "name" idea that "Junjun, Morrison Hill, Father Father, Son son," his deputy should be real "name" and the "but the inequality is not a problem, not a problem of poverty and suffering from anxiety" viewpoint . Since the Western Han Dynasty, the doctrine of Confucius become more than 2,000 years of feudal society is the orthodox culture, great impact. The existing "The Analects of Confucius", which recorded the door Confucius and the quiz is to study the doctrine of Confucius key information.
Zhuang
Warring States when philosopher. A week. Song Meng (today Henan Shangqiu Northeast) people. Mongolia, a former Chatham Park officials. Through lack of, the supervisors had to SU River Hou (Guanming), but declined to Chu-wei WANG Hou-currency Lipin. He inherited and developed Laozi "Imitation of Nature" with the things that the self-self, that "Road" is the "first world", "Since the self-root", "without all", "Road closures Weishi" ( "Road" Open difference), and to "All Things are also a" (that is, all things - a non-discriminatory). And that things "insensitive and the same, to say no sometimes," "in the world Qiuhao great at the end, and for small-Che; Mok Sau-between War, and PANG for Romantic Suicide" ( "Zhuangzi • aiwulun") I advocate of Qi, Qi right and wrong, homogeneous small, homogeneous death, Qi贵贱, the idea of "Heaven and Earth and I hygiene, and the things I was a" spiritual realm, when the Department Shun, Happy Contentment. Ziti to the flooding, imagine Yili,. Book "Zhuang Zi.

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Uygur victims, family member of dead in factory brawl condemn Xinjiang riot
A family member of a Uygur man who died in a toy factory brawl, which is said to have spurred the deadly riot in Xinjiang on Sunday, has joined injured workers in condemning the riot.

Patigul, 20, an elder sister of the victim Aximujiang Ahmad, told Xinhua Tuesday she was heartbroken when knowing many families lost their loved ones in the riot. "The murders must be punished."

She made the remarks one day after Uygur workers who injured in the brawl in south China's Guangdong Province on June 26 condemned the riot in Urumqi.

She said her family were grieved about the death of Aximujiang. However, some people staged the violence in Urumqi on the excuse of supporting Aximujiang.

The father and mother of Patigul died in 1995 and 2001. Patigul said Aximujiang and the other younger brother received much help from local officials, relatives and neighbors. The two brothers finished junior middle school with funding from the local government of Shufu County in Kashgar.

The people who used the death of her brother to stage the violence have ulterior motives, said Patigul.

The body of Aximujiang Ahmad was sent back to his hometown by plane on June 29, and was buried on the same day, she added.

Injured Uygur workers in the brawl who were receiving treatment in a hospital in Shaoguan, Guangdong, denounced the Urumqi riot Monday.

"The rioters used our injuries as an excuse for their violence," said Atigul Turdi, a 24-year-old woman worker who was injured in the brawl. "I firmly opposed the violence in the name of taking revenge for us."

"I believe the government will handle the brawl appropriately," Atigul Turdi said. "Why did the rioters destroy our beautiful and peaceful Xinjiang region in such cruel manners?"

Two Uygur workers died and 87 Xinjiang Uygur workers were injured in the brawl. Some people posted calls on Internet forums for demonstrations in Urumqi.

Atigul Turdi said she would stay in Guangdong to work after recovery. As one of the first workers to arrive at the factory from Shufu County, Xinjiang, on May 1, she missed the happy days to work with her colleagues harmoniously.

Ebeyjan Ahmad whose arms and head were hurt in the fight was waiting to be discharged from hospital.

He shared the worry with Turdi and chose to work in Shaoguan, too.

Police have detained 15 suspects in connection with the factory fight.

Government officials said the factory fight was used as an excuse for the riot in Urumqi, which killed at least 156 people and injured more than 1,000 others.

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I am currently chartering buses in Afghanistan and offering free transportation to China for all Taliban types eager to help their oppressed brethren.

Taliban leave Afghanistan.
Americans get to come home.
China new great satan.

I love geopolitics.