1,137 cars burned overnight in France

[Westerner]

That France. They've got Muslim hoodlum kids burning up thousands of cars and they did it again this New Years. Must be the national pastime in France and Paris.

Hundreds of cars torched in France at New Year | Reuters

[knightlancer]

Odd one wes - not a single mention of the word Muslim in that article. Also, if you google 'cars burned Paris', not one of the articles that comes up mentions the word Muslim. Even on fuckfrance.com.

Perhaps you think all Muslims are French, or all French are Muslims, or that Islam has taken over every part of the world but your house and everything naughty everyone does everywhere is an example of Islamic mischief?

[Michael Asher]

Aside from the fact that Muslims aren't even mentioned, isn't it odd that the title of the article mentions "hundreds of cars," while Westerner says that it is "thousands of cars?"

Well, let's just let him keep disseminating his false information. It's in the spirit of freedom of speech.

[Bateman]

It's not false information. It is you who spreads the multi-culti lie that it is not the children of North African immigrants who are responsible for this.

It's their sad little mini-jihad.

[Michael Asher]

Originally Posted by Bateman

It's not false information. It is you who spreads the multi-culti lie that it is not the children of North African immigrants who are responsible for this.

It's their sad little mini-jihad.

So, hundreds = thousands for you?

And, Bateman, not one single mention of "Islam" or "Muslim" in the article whatsoever. How do you explain that?

[Westerner]

It has been on the news multiple times in the past that Muslim youth were burning cars in Paris, France. They burned over a thousand cars in the Paris area alone a few years ago. So yes, Muslim youth have burned thousands of cars in France over the last few years. The media is now engaging in cover-up by not mentioning names in their articles.

France is now 10% Muslim and they are experiencing violence and unrest from the Muslim youth. They wouldn't acknowledge it.

Paris is burning: Islamofacists take up where Nazis left off - as the French Republic becomes the French Khalifate

Will the French feel 'provoked' enough by the Islamofacists to act against them - or just become post Vichy dhimmis ?
November 3, 2005


http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/1214

[knightlancer]

Now wessie, you know that lying is naughty. You're saying that because Muslims have torched cars on previous occasions, they must be responsible this time round. And the lack of any evidence of this is because everyone wants to hide the evidence? Apparently the 10% of French who are Muslim (your figures, wildly overestimated) have got the whole media wrapped up already - Berlusconi would be envious.

Using your reckoning, as the IRA used to bomb London, they must be responsible for the 7/7 bombings.

It's a problematic tradition amongst French vandals to torch cars on NYE. It happened again this year. Don't let that spoil your ravings, mind.

[Belle Starr]

isn't there a film,
"The Cars that ate Paris" ?

[Bateman]

Originally Posted by knightlancer

Now wessie, you know that lying is naughty. You're saying that because Muslims have torched cars on previous occasions, they must be responsible this time round. And the lack of any evidence of this is because everyone wants to hide the evidence? Apparently the 10% of French who are Muslim (your figures, wildly overestimated) have got the whole media wrapped up already - Berlusconi would be envious.

Using your reckoning, as the IRA used to bomb London, they must be responsible for the 7/7 bombings.

It's a problematic tradition amongst French vandals to torch cars on NYE. It happened again this year. Don't let that spoil your ravings, mind.

Did someone shit in your head and neglect to flush it? Everybody knows that the suburbs of Paris are no-go areas. Ask the family of the jew who was tortured for several days and left for dead. He did die as a matter of fact. His torturers and murderers, unsuprisingly, all had non-European names. No suprise, because virtually no one of European descent lives in the suburbs.

[Westerner]

Originally Posted by Bateman

Did someone shit in your head and neglect to flush it? Everybody knows that the suburbs of Paris are no-go areas. Ask the family of the jew who was tortured for several days and left for dead. He did die as a matter of fact. His torturers and murderers, unsuprisingly, all had non-European names. No suprise, because virtually no one of European descent lives in the suburbs.

Wednesday, November 29, 2006

No-Go Areas of France and the rest of Europe

Note: No-Go Zones are the product of a radical ideology. Catholicgauze denounces all radical ideologies including Nazism and racism. "White Nationalism" is just as bad as Islamic Separatism.


Choropleth map of Microstates in France


An increasingly commonly thing in European cities is the no-go zone. These are places where the police, medical rescue crews, and other government agents will not venture into. The areas are viewed as just too violent and/or risky to enforce rules. Following the rules of ungoverned spaces, anarchy does not reign for long. A group will enforce their own rule set and the no-go zone will become a microstate.

In France no-go zones are referred to as Zones Urbaines Sensibles (Sensitive Urban Zones). Approximately 12 percent of all French in France live in a Sensitive Urban Zone (5 million out of approximately 60 million French)! Some of the zones are governed under Islamic Sharia law. From these no-go zones Islamic militants are waging guerrilla warfare against French police. The police are now taking to the streets in protest against the violence targeted at them in Lyons with police unions claiming there is a civil war against them.

Microstates in France are growing. Maps and location of all 751 no-go areas in France can be viewed here.


Geographic Travels with Catholicgauze!: No-Go Areas of France and the rest of Europe

[Westerner]

Originally Posted by Westerner

Wednesday, November 29, 2006

No-Go Areas of France and the rest of Europe

Note: No-Go Zones are the product of a radical ideology. Catholicgauze denounces all radical ideologies including Nazism and racism. "White Nationalism" is just as bad as Islamic Separatism.


Choropleth map of Microstates in France


An increasingly commonly thing in European cities is the no-go zone. These are places where the police, medical rescue crews, and other government agents will not venture into. The areas are viewed as just too violent and/or risky to enforce rules. Following the rules of ungoverned spaces, anarchy does not reign for long. A group will enforce their own rule set and the no-go zone will become a microstate.

In France no-go zones are referred to as Zones Urbaines Sensibles (Sensitive Urban Zones). Approximately 12 percent of all French in France live in a Sensitive Urban Zone (5 million out of approximately 60 million French)! Some of the zones are governed under Islamic Sharia law. From these no-go zones Islamic militants are waging guerrilla warfare against French police. The police are now taking to the streets in protest against the violence targeted at them in Lyons with police unions claiming there is a civil war against them.

Microstates in France are growing. Maps and location of all 751 no-go areas in France can be viewed here.

Geographic Travels with Catholicgauze!: No-Go Areas of France and the rest of Europe

Here is an article about British no-go areas. I have made a comment that Britain is trying to catch-up to France. I think that comment went right over most people's heads on this forum. There is a war going on in France where Islamic militants are battling French police and only Muslim Sharia law is allowed. One British official visiting a no-go area in Britain was told by a Muslim cleric to get out. I listened to the video of the British official arguing there was no place where British law was not going to apply. Some of the Muslim imams and clerics in Britain are not getting the message and they think they can set up their own little Muslim homelands ruled only by Sharia law within Britain. It's already happened in France...it's coming in Britain.

TheOPINIONATOR: BRITISH MAN STABBED IN "No Go Area" - ANOTHER MEDIA IGNORED MUSLIM HATE CRIME

[Uplifter]

Originally Posted by Westerner

Here is an article about British no-go areas. I have made a comment that Britain is trying to catch-up to France. I think that comment went right over most people's heads on this forum. There is a war going on in France where Islamic militants are battling French police and only Muslim Sharia law is allowed. One British official visiting a no-go area in Britain was told by a Muslim cleric to get out. I listened to the video of the British official arguing there was no place where British law was not going to apply. Some of the Muslim imams and clerics in Britain are not getting the message and they think they can set up their own little Muslim homelands ruled only by Sharia law within Britain. It's already happened in France...it's coming in Britain.

TheOPINIONATOR: BRITISH MAN STABBED IN "No Go Area" - ANOTHER MEDIA IGNORED MUSLIM HATE CRIME

Funny, that website is blocked by our firewalls because it "incites racism and hate".

No wonder Westerner uses it as a reference.
You know bigotry works both ways.

[Westerner]

Originally Posted by Uplifter

Funny, that website is blocked by our firewalls because it "incites racism and hate".

No wonder Westerner uses it as a reference.
You know bigotry works both ways.

The guy wants Muslims to stop killing and hating. Islam teaches Muslims to hate non-believers.

It is not "inciting racism and hate" to try to get Muslims to quit killing and hating.

Obama said passengers coming from 14 countries had to be more thoroughly searched. Those 14 countries are predominantly Muslim. CAIR (Council American Islamic Relations) said that was "inciting racism and hate" because they believed Muslims were being targeted.

The truth is the truth. The quran teaches hatred against non-Muslims. Islam teaches that the value of an infidel is equivalent to a monkey, cow or pig.

The quran teaches discrimination and hate.

When I read that CAIR equated searching Muslim passengers to "racism" I had to disagree. Islam is not a race.

Islam is quranic writings of a murdering terrorist. That's not a race.

[Dave]

Admin note:

Westerner whilst we welcome all view points, please be aware that we do not look kindly on those individuals that continue to utilise this forum to proffer their ignorant racist bile.

[knightlancer]

Let's just skip over the usual bile from wessie and the binman and look at the available evidence, if we may.

If you google 'cars burned paris new years eve', you will find Muslims mentioned only once on the first page, in this article debunking the claims that this is a 'mini jihad'. It's an article from Reuter's, and seems to be a reasoned response to the hysterical allegations from the usual bigots round here:

Were they “French� or “Muslims� torching cars on New Year’s Eve?

He also links to this blog, which expands on the theme. All very interesting:

Why we don’t call them “Muslim riots” in Paris suburbs | Analysis & Opinion | Reuters

So there's no evidence that these car burnings, which have been happening for decades, have become or are becoming the sole preserve of Muslim youth. There's certainly no link between the burnings and religion of Islam.

This, wessie, is what happens when you take all your news from militantislammonitor.com - maybe it's time to broaden your reading, maybe let a little light in.

[Bateman]

Yeah, that's true. There's a much stronger link between blowing up planes, planting IED's, detonating suicide vests and/or trucks anywhere people are congregated in worthwhile blowing them up numbers and so on. They are way too busy to be torching cars...

Probz disgruntled Algerian youth living in the no-go suburbs of Paris probably helped the emergency services put those fires out!!

The fires were undoubtedly started by the disenfranchised white christian youth, (maybe even neo-nazis) who journey every night from the centre of Paris, or from their country estates, to burn the Mercs and Beemers and Audis and Peugeots of the suburban poor.

How about going by the names of the detained rioters? After the 2005 riots, police reported that half of the 3,000 or so they took in were males under 18. Some 640 of them were eventually arrested and most of them already had police records. Most had Arabic or African names

The article proffers some PC excuse for why they don't make explicit the fact that most of the perps are muslim. Nowhere does it assert that most of the perps are not muslim. In fact this paragraph confirms that most of the perps are in fact muslim.

[Bateman]

Let's just skip over the usual bile from wessie and the binman

I thought it was against the rules to alter usernames? Infractions have been handed out for less than this.For the second time Knightlancer, it just makes you look like a snob when you attempt to capitalize on the fact that I do a fairly menial though very well-paid job.

And for the second time, what do you do? And what does your daddy do? Sneering at someone who works hard to support their family only serves to reveal you as the skidmark on the underpants of this forum.

[knightlancer]

<<< personal attack - to the Thunderbox >>>

[knightlancer]

Originally Posted by Bateman

Yeah, that's true. There's a much stronger link between blowing up planes, planting IED's, detonating suicide vests and/or trucks anywhere people are congregated in worthwhile blowing them up numbers and so on. They are way too busy to be torching cars...

Probz disgruntled Algerian youth living in the no-go suburbs of Paris probably helped the emergency services put those fires out!!

The fires were undoubtedly started by the disenfranchised white christian youth, (maybe even neo-nazis) who journey every night from the centre of Paris, or from their country estates, to burn the Mercs and Beemers and Audis and Peugeots of the suburban poor.



The article proffers some PC excuse for why they don't make explicit the fact that most of the perps are muslim. Nowhere does it assert that most of the perps are not muslim. In fact this paragraph confirms that most of the perps are in fact muslim.

It's notable that you misleadingly bring up a para about the 2005 riots to defend your view that the 2009-10 NYE car burnings were perpetrated by Muslims as part of a 'mini-jihad'. Also that you omit the part of that same para that notes that many of the rioters were of Italian, French or Portuguese extraction. Not really one for a balanced argument, are you, binman?

[Westerner]

Pat Robertson's position and beliefs and mine are the same on this subject. Pat gets it right in this video:

YouTube - Pat Robertson Explaining Islam