Anti-Semitic attacks against Jews 'rise in the UK'

[sarmajor]

Originally Posted by Mr.Sillypants

Zan,

"I am not now stealing, nor have I ever stolen, land from Catholics." So you are an indigenous Irishman then ?

If not , then technicaly , your presence in Ireland was in support of the colonial military occupation of Ireland
and the apparatus imposed upon the remnant of the Northern Irish clans.

Or were you there working to restore the six counties to their rightfull owners and remove the invaders
and colonists and restore justice ?

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Mr Sillypants

At what point in time do you decide who are invaders and who are indigeneous people.

Are you claiming to speak for the inhabitants of Ireland that resided there before Edward l did his thing or would that only be recognising the occupation of the Anglo-Normans.

Perhaps it is the claims of the earlier Viking invaders that you consider to be sancrosant.

Then again it is probably the Celts who were the original inhabitants of Ireland - although, admittedly, there were probably previous inhabitants who were dispossessed by the Celts.

Please indicate to us whom you consider to be the rightful owners of Ireland.

[Uplifter]

Originally Posted by Mr. Sillypants

yes , so were the dozens of people quoted in the half dozen links I posted.

You posted a link. I am talking from experience. You cannot prove that link to be true, but I know what I saw and experienced.

[Mr.Sillypants]

"Please indicate to us whom you consider to be the rightful owners of Ireland."

That would be the Irish , as opposed to the English Crown Plc who decided that they
should have the Northern quarter of the country.

As for the Normans and vikings , on both accounts they were beaten and then allowed
to settle there. They didnt actually carve the place up , slaughter more than 90% of the
population and then claim they owned the place.

The same with the Fir Bog and the Tuatha De Denann.

Population before brits arrived = 11.5 million approx.

Population after brits = 850,000 approx.

Says it all really.

Similarly the indigenous people of Australia are the rightful owners of that land. Not
the people who destroyed and colonised them.

I believe people have a right not to be invaded , slaughtered and colonised.

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[Uplifter]

Originally Posted by Mr.Sillypants

"Please indicate to us whom you consider to be the rightful owners of Ireland."

That would be the Irish , as opposed to the English Crown Plc who decided that they
should have the Northern quarter of the country.

Why stop there?

Originally Posted by Mr.Sillypants

As for the Normans and vikings , on both accounts they were beaten and then allowed to settle there. They didnt actually carve the place up , slaughter more than 90% of the
population and then claim they owned the place.

They might not have slaughtered 90% of the population, but they did carve up the place and then claim that they owned it.

Originally Posted by Mr.Sillypants

"I believe people have a right not to be invaded , slaughtered and colonised.

Does that also include the Native Americans? The South Americans? The Palestinians? The Indians?

Shit you may as well just say that every country belongs to Africa as they were the first humans to have existed and it is them that walked the land eventually settling in different parts of the globe.

[CatWoman]

Originally Posted by sarmajor

As has been pointed out here many, many times before for every malevant quote that can be found in the Koran can be also found in the Koran.

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I take this to mean that the Koran is totally evil.

[Uplifter]

Originally Posted by CatWoman

I take this to mean that the Koran is totally evil.

You would.

[CatWoman]

Originally Posted by Uplifter

Why stop there?




They might not have slaughtered 90% of the population, but they did carve up the place and then claim that they owned it.





Does that also include the Native Americans? The South Americans? The Palestinians? The Indians?

Shit you may as well just say that every country belongs to Africa as they were the first humans to have existed and it is them that walked the land eventually settling in different parts of the globe.

I used the example of NI to prove what I said in earlier posts. History has shown us that might has always been right. Thats how the US stole the land from the Native American tribes. Thats the British Crown stole the land from the original Irish tribes in NI.

And that is how the Muslims spread there caliphate.

[Uplifter]

Originally Posted by CatWoman

I used the example of NI to prove what I said in earlier posts. History has shown us that might has always been right. Thats how the US stole the land from the Native American tribes. Thats the British Crown stole the land from the original Irish tribes in NI.

And that is how the Muslims spread there caliphate.

Don't you mean that is how the Israelis are stealing the land from the Palestinians?

I always thought that is a bad solution especially as they are surrounded by countries that support the Palestinian cause.

One day your "might is right" argument may come back to haunt you.

[sarmajor]

Quote:
Originally Posted by sarmajor
As has been pointed out here many, many times before for every malevant quote that can be found in the Koran can be also found in the Koran.

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I take this to mean that the Koran is totally evil.

No - I said that every malevant (I must watch my spelling) quote in the Koran - can be found in the Koran.

I should have also said that every malevant quote in the Bible - can be found in the bible.

Perhaps I could have saved space by saying that every malevant quote in the Koran can also be found in the Bible.

[CatWoman]

Originally Posted by Uplifter

One day your "might is right" argument may come back to haunt you.

As a descendent of the Khazar Empire on my fathers side it already has.

[sarmajor]

Thats the British Crown stole the land from the original Irish tribes in NI.

I think that you will find that the Vikings stole much of the land from the Irish tribes and that the Normans then stole it from the Vikings.

In turn the English then stole it from the Norman-Irish.

It was not the British Crown as that did not come into existance until centuries later.

Edward l was king of England - not king of Britain

[Uplifter]

Originally Posted by CatWoman

As a descendent of the Khazar Empire on my fathers side it already has.

I was talking about Israel. Please try to stay on at least one topic.

[Zan de Man]

Mr Sillypants is well named if his knowledge of history is any guide. I was born in Ireland. I have British citizenship, but I describe myself as Irish. If you want to go to these lengths, you'll have to throw the Gaels out of Scotland because they came over from Ireland and seized the Highlands. Maybe some of my forebears came with them. Hey, that could mean I have more right to Ireland than anyone.

On the other hand, maybe they were Flemings who came with the NOrmans, in which case I should be deported to Belgium.

Or maybe they'll have to dismember me and send bits all over the place.

[CatWoman]

Originally Posted by Zan de Man

Mr Sillypants is well named if his knowledge of history is any guide. I was born in Ireland. I have British citizenship, but I describe myself as Irish. If you want to go to these lengths, you'll have to throw the Gaels out of Scotland because they came over from Ireland and seized the Highlands. Maybe some of my forebears came with them. Hey, that could mean I have more right to Ireland than anyone.

On the other hand, maybe they were Flemings who came with the NOrmans, in which case I should be deported to Belgium.

Or maybe they'll have to dismember me and send bits all over the place.

The last option sounds good to me.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Uplifter

I was talking about Israel. Please try to stay on at least one topic.

She means if it wasn't for 'might makes right' she'd be lording it over Kazakstan right now. Or something like that. I think.

Reminds me no end of this sort of thing: TR 2/2003: R. Countess: A Provocative History of the Aryan Race

[sarmajor]

Or maybe they'll have to dismember me and send bits all over the place.

I want to put a reservation on the hair as, unless I put in my order first, It would just be my luck to get the arsehole.

[CatWoman]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

She means if it wasn't for 'might makes right' she'd be lording it over Kazakstan right now. Or something like that. I think.

Reminds me no end of this sort of thing: TR 2/2003: R. Countess: A Provocative History of the Aryan Race

Actually I was refering to the 13th tribe by Arthur Koestler.

[Mr.Sillypants]

Zan'

Yeah right. You are about as Irish as the fat old German bird who you call your Queen.
Or the greek fascist she married.

You are only making a fool of yourself with your ridiculous nonsense about Irish history.
How do you Taffy's like English rule ? Of course you accept it gladly right ? You claim
to be an intelligent human being. So :-

Stop talking bollocks before you make an even bigger eejit of yourself.

May I suggest you widden your choice of reading material.

While it is true that "History is written by the victor " it does not mean that you have to
lap it up like a mangy cur eating another dogs vomit.

Uplifter,

What are you saying here ? That the people quoted in the links are all making stuff up ?
Or perhaps the authors pulled the whole thing out of their arse ? But of course , you know
damned well that that is not the case. Perhaps their view of reality does not fit in with the
pile of steaming horse-shit that you are selling ?

Sarge ,

What the flying fuck are you talking about ?

Look , the followers of Islam are supposed to follow the exact word spoken by the
Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) and to immitate the lifestyle of the Prophet.

Christians are supposed to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and to immitate His lifestyle.

So ok. Please show me the similarities between the teachings and lifestyle of the
Prophet Mohammad(PBUH) and the teachings and lifestyle of Jesus Christ.

Go ahead. Lets compare the core concepts of both.

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[Uplifter]

Originally Posted by Mr.Sillypants

Uplifter,

What are you saying here ? That the people quoted in the links are all making stuff up ?
Or perhaps the authors pulled the whole thing out of their arse ? But of course , you know
damned well that that is not the case. Perhaps their view of reality does not fit in with the
pile of steaming horse-shit that you are selling ?
.

Maybe I'm just pointing out the quality of the media you are reading and not about something you have experienced.

[Spyder Jerusalem]

So ok. Please show me the similarities between the teachings and lifestyle of the
Prophet Mohammad(PBUH) and the teachings and lifestyle of Jesus Christ.

Actually, since the fuckin christers insist on usin the WHOLE FUCKIN BIBLE to justify their hatred, we'll use that!

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

KILL NONBELIEVERS!

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

KILL LYING NONVIRGINS!

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

KILL THE ENTIRE TOWN IF THEY WORSHIP ANOTHER GOD!

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

KILL WORSHIPERS OF OTHER GODS!

One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

DEATH TO BLASPHEMERS!

(Moses) stood at the entrance to the camp and shouted, "All of you who are on the LORD's side, come over here and join me." And all the Levites came. He told them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors." The Levites obeyed Moses, and about three thousand people died that day. Then Moses told the Levites, "Today you have been ordained for the service of the LORD, for you obeyed him even though it meant killing your own sons and brothers. Because of this, he will now give you a great blessing." (Exodus 32:26-29 NLT)

DEATH TO WHOEVER GOD SAYS!

Now, how exactly is this any different from Islam?